[waterlesscloud]

Right. So things which were once luxuries are now common and cheap.

Which was the point.

[Someone1234]

Sounds like a nice way to dismiss all Western poverty ever. Have running water and electricity? Clearly not poor...

Just pick anything that 90%+ of the population have: internet, electricity, gas, water, a car, heating, a telephone line, etc and then declare it your "line" for poverty.

[waterlesscloud]

That's not the point under discussion.

[Someone1234]

What exactly is the "point under discussion" then? Because it sounds pretty close to that if that isn't it.

[andywood]

I don't think TVs were ever really a luxury in the US, except in contrived Internet arguments about the lifestyles of 10th century kings, where they absolutely always were.