[rasz_pl]

wow, you swallowed a lot of bullshit marketing :(

>did a custom controller for the display timing (Timing Controller (TCON))

Apple doesnt produce displays, they dont design TCONs - Tcon is a pcb sitting directly behind glass driving individual crystals, and is designed and manufactured by the same company making the display. Also every Tcon is custom, and build to drive particular type of screen.

Yes, when Dan Rissio says "we manufactured this screen' he is LYING TO YOU. They bought whole thing from LG or Sharp.

AMD doesnt support DP 1.3 yet, so only way for 5K resolution is bonding two 3K screens together, this is so innovative IBM did it 15 years ago in T220.

> retina type rendering

you mean scaling down? this is what GPUs do best, out of the box.

Yes, this screen is amazing. But dont act like its something revolutionary touched by Noodly Appendage.

[WoodenChair]

Apple has had its own display engineers since the '80s. Yes, they use several off the shelf components, but they're also known to create their own chips and oversee specialized manufacturing for particular models/challenges. Case in point was the 21" Apple CRT from the late '90s that featured a Sony Trinitron but also had custom Apple chips that auto calibrated as the display aged based on Apple's ColorSync technology. This looks like a similar collaboration.

You really think the largest company in the world (by market cap) doesn't actively collaborate with its source companies and do custom designs created by its internal engineers together with the supplier's engineers?

[Havoc]

None of which addresses the points raised per parent? And yes we all know Apple has a big market cap and lots of engineers...

[gress]

The points raised by the parent don't need to be addressed because they are just innuendo.

[Havoc]

Then why respond to parent at all if you're not actually responding?

[gress]

Because the response reveals the innuendo. There is no need to credit it with some kind of point by point analysis.

[throwaway6829]

As someone who has worked in Apple's hardware engineering for years, you're pretty much 100% wrong in everything you've said.

[mwfunk]

Yeah, they do in fact make TCONs.

[justinpaulson]

They didn't manufacture it, they designed it. How many tech companies design and manufacture all of their own stuff? Any? They didn't "buy the whole thing from LG or Sharp" they designed and developed it and then used them as manufacturing partner to produce it.

You have really swallowed the Apple hateraide it seems.

[rasz_pl]

Yes, just like they designed Ipad Retina screen, except its designed and manufactured by Sharp.

[thegenius]

Don't be so condescending.

[eevilspock]

> Yes, when Dan Rissio says "we manufactured this screen' he is LYING TO YOU. They bought whole thing from LG or Sharp.

It's not a lie if "we" refers to Apple together with its partners or "manufacture this screen" refers to the combination of LG/Sharp's screen with Apple technology.

Is it a lie when Google says it created Android without mentioning the creators of Linux or Java? Is it a lie if Intel says it manufactures a CPU without mentioning the manufacturers of the silicon wafers?

Dude, it's marketing, which I'm not a fan of. But be fair.

[vegabook]

Okay nobody seriously looks at Apple as a panel manufacturer, unless you (and Apple) are referring to the fact that the company has a stake in Sharp. The plant and expertise required to build panels is clean room stuff that AAPL just does not do. It does industrial design and software. Not "manufacturing of screens" so the point is clear. Android's skin is distant enough from Java and Linux that it can credibly be called a creation of Google. Just as Audi can say it built the car without having to credit the inventor of the internal combustion engine, and instructing a supplier to build a part to its specifications is hardly "manufacturing" it. It is "specifying" it. As every Apple product owner knows: "Designed in California, MADE in China". In this case, made in Japan/korea. As such, "we manufacture" is skirting close to the edge of a lie if "we" is spoken at an Apple branded press conference with no mention whatsoever of partners.

[vegabook]

auto-correlated downvote trend on a perfectly reasonable point: AAPL is not very innovative as Dell is launching the same monitor. Sure the driver logic might have been the subject of some consulting but if anybody thinks it will not appear within weeks on competitor brands they're kidding themselves. Everything about this display is not proprietary AAPL tech.

[rsynnott]

The Dell monitor is apparently four 2560x1440 panels (a fairly common approach to early-stage 4k monitors/tvs, as well. Anandtech were told that the iMac is controlled as a single unit, so it's probably rather different to the Dell, and yes, they probably _do_ have a proprietary controller.

[glhaynes]

As is discussed above, though, even if such displays appear, who will have anything to plug them into? Yes, some people will be able to go find a specific kind of video card to plug into their homebuilt rig to drive it, but who will be offering something like this that normies (95%+ of the market) will comfortably and confidently be able to just go and buy? That counts for something.

[rasz_pl]

Any card with two outputs will do, just like IBM T220 from 2000y.

[jsz0]

Perfectly reasonable speculation/opinions but there's no technical details available of the internals of Dell's upcoming display that uses the same|similar panel or the iMac Retina at this point. You might be getting down voted for your reasonable speculation/opinions because you presented it as fact. Online discussions can be of higher quality when everyone agrees on the difference between fact and opinion.