[bachmeier]

> The reality is that customers just don't want to use Firefox OS.

Is a Firefox OS device on sale in any US retail store? I've never even talked with another person that had heard of Firefox OS. How could you possibly know that customers don't want it?

[aaronbrethorst]

    I've never even talked with another
    person that had heard of Firefox OS.
    How could you possibly know that
    customers don't want it?

I could pick anyone who didn't have the slightest clue what FLOSS means, besides something they should do at least once a day, and ask them about a FFOS phone. Here's how that conversation would go down:

Me: Hey, did you know you can get a smartphone for $33?

Them: Cool! That sounds great, and $66 cheaper than my iPhone.

Me: Yeah, that would totally pay for 3 weeks of your cell phone bill.

Them: Sounds good, so I can get Instagram on it, right?

Me: Yep, except you won't be able to post photos.

Them: Oh. How about Flappy Bird.

Me: Nope, sorry.

Them: Darn, but that's ok. Too addictive. How about Uber, Whatsapp, and Facebook?

Me: Totally! Mobile web all the way, baby! HTML 5!

Them: Awesome!

<2 Weeks Pass>

Them: I went back to my iPhone. Those mobile websites suck.

[bachmeier]

You obviously wouldn't be having that conversation with me. You might want to consider that others might not use a phone the same way you do. ("Anyone" is a pretty bold claim.)

Though I would really love it if you could show me where to get a $99 iPhone.

[mkaziz]

I think he meant that non-tech guy X considers his generation old, contract based $99 iPhone as costing $99 period.

[bachmeier]

I realize that, but there are a lot of people out there that are smart enough to take the monthly cost of the contract into account, however you want to describe them. I do a lot of programming, but am a "non-tech" guy myself.

[throwaway2048]

Unfortunately there isnt much to be had FLOSS-wise over android with FX-os as they use the same shitty closed source driver model as android.

I dont know why anyone would want these phones.

[DanBC]

You might want to explain the true cost of an iPhone to them.

[aaronbrethorst]

T-Mobile's doing a great job of that. Or are you talking about "Ring 0 freedoms"?

[DanBC]

Suggesting that an iPhone costs $99 when it costs $99 plus monthly contract makes the comparison less than useful.