[jonheller]

I lost 50 pounds eating ~500 calories more on keto than I did before.

Unfortunately I wasn't completely comfortable with the types of meals I ate with that lifestyle.

But it did make me feel as though the whole calories in - calories out was nonsense. Especially after trying (and failing) diets based around that (weight watchers) multiple times.

[Quaro]

>I lost 50 pounds eating ~500 calories more on keto than I did before

>But it did make me feel as though the whole calories in - calories out was nonsense.

As a diet methodology, calories in vs calories out is not very effective for the general public. I too have lost more weight via keto.

But when I really tracked what I was eating I found keto simply kept my appetite under control better. This is extremely valuable but ultimately it was still down to calories.

(You also tend to drop a ton of water weight when you first start keto which makes it seem super effective at first)

[mahyarm]

Comparing how I felt doing keto with the keto flu vs. just plain calorie counting, I think the unique metabolism of ketosis makes your body not use everything you eat during keto. It's very hard to keep under 20g of carbs and not eat too much protein also. Much easier to just go to chipolte/subway and calorie count. If your lifestyle makes you make all 3 meals already, then keto is great. If you don't, then it's a lot of work.

[antidaily]

Have you tried slow carb? Avoids dairy and adds legumes. I've found it easier to do and it's (probably) healthier.

[mrfusion]

Slow carb worked great for me for 6 months, lost 25 lbs!

But alas I got so sick of chicken for dinner and eggs for breakfast, and I guess just got too bored with the meals. Gained it all back :-(

(I actually haven't eaten an egg since then. And I avoid chicken now. I'm wondering if some people develop an aversion to foods they eat too regularly?)