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by sjtgraham 4596 days ago
Ships 2014, EMV liability shift 2015. So these are good for about a year or so.
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Maybe in the EU. The US is dragging its feet on the whole PIN/CHIP migration. I had to specifically request my Platinum Amex have a chip on it, and Amex still doesn't support pin and chip with it, only chip and signature (which means it still fails often enough for me in the EU to be a pain).
> Maybe in the EU.

*the remainder of the world.

> The US is dragging its feet on the whole PIN/CHIP migration.

Merchants are dragging their feet. The liability shift deadline is instituted by the card schemes themselves.

Okay, but I'm in the US and the US has ~300 million people (vs 500 million spread throughout the EU).

What happens in the EU doesn't always effect the US, and vice versa.

You mean the USA has non standard tech/standards and companies have to produce two SKU's one for export one for home - you fail production engineering 101.

The fiasco over not implementing GSM like the rest of the developed world did is a good example - less NIH might help.

It's not the entire world - for example, Square was able to bring their magstripe-only technology to Japan without much interference.
What does that mean? EMV liability shift?
It means merchants will be liable for counterfeit card fraud if the transaction mechanism used isn't EMV aka chip and pin, i.e. magnetic swipe cards are done.

Coin is betting the EMV deadline will be pushed out indefinitely or is using this gadget as a trojan horse for something bigger.

For more information on the liability shift: http://www.tsys.com/acquiring/engage/white-papers/United-Sta... The gist: October 1, 2015 – Liability will shift to acquirers for domestic and cross-border counterfeit fraud card-present POS transactions if the merchant does not have an EMV-enabled POS device
It means that as of 2015, merchants in the US who accept magstripe (as opposed to chip and pin) are responsible for any fraud that occurs when the payment was made with magstripe.

Even if US retailers were accepting magstripe and taking on the risk, I doubt they would accept a sketchy-looking unlabelled card.