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by slowdown 4623 days ago
SSD's are not there yet, if you ask me. I've been running on a custom SSD on my Mac mini, with restarts required once daily after crashing (mostly due to chrome). A dozen friends of mine also had a buggy experience with SSDs. They are super fast, I mean. But not so reliable at this point in time.

Will I go back to a HDD? Probably not. HDD is really good for backing up stuff, but for speed, SSD's are unmatched. There's no icon-bouncing each time I click on an app in the bottom menu of my mac. Even a restart a day is totally worth it for me :D (Just kidding, don't fucking downvote me)

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SSD's are not there yet, if you ask me. I've been running on a custom SSD on my Mac mini, with restarts required once daily after crashing (mostly due to chrome). A dozen friends of mine also had a buggy experience with SSDs. They are super fast, I mean. But not so reliable at this point in time.

There are some ugly SSDs out there with firmware problems (e.g. some people have reported problems with OCZ). I have been using different SSDs for three years (Apple branded, Samsung, and Intel) and I never had any problem or bugs. In fact, since Apple uses Samsung themselves, I have also used Trim Enabler without problems.

You are talking based on your own experience. I am talking based on mine and 12 others I know of. No offence, but you get the point, right? :)
That's the whole point of my comment. It's anecdotical evidence and you'll find as many people having the opposite experience (ie. me).

If you look at the actual failure rate, it's well known that the failure rates of SSDs are well below those of HDDs:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2319966

(With the notable exception of the aforementioned brand.)

The thing about personal experience is that you can't really quantify it. His 3 anecdotes (3 SSDs over 3 years) are just as valid as your 13 anecdotes.
I was under the impression that OSX already supported trim. Is that not the case, or is it only for certain models?
Trim is only enabled by OS X on Apple-branded SSDs.
I wouldn't say that. I've been using SSDs since 2009, and I've never had an issue with them. Every MacBook I've owned since then has had a hybrid of SSD + HDD for speed and capacity, and it seriously works a treat. The only issue I have ever encountered with them was an issue between a very specific combination of drives, once that was nutted out it's been solid as a rock. I would never go back.
I run an SSD for the system and a HDD (in the optical drive bay) for storage in my (aged) MBP. Any advice to get the HDD to wind down when not in use? This setup is fantastic when plugged in, but battery life suffers with the HDD in the aftermarket location unable to go to sleep...
If I'm going portable and need every last minute of battery life I'll transfer files I need over to my SSH (or to a 64GB SD card if they're very large files) and unmount the platter drive in my MBP
I've never had an issue with getting a HDD in the optical bay to sleep. Just checked the option in the settings and used a tool (CHUB? CHUD?) to set the minimum spindown time to be lower than normal.
Yes... swap the two drives. The optical bay cannot properly put the HDD to sleep. I am running a similar setup, but with the HDD in the original bay, and the SSD in the optical bay and have no issues.
Ah, yes. I think with my machine being a very old model (MBP 4,1) there was some issue for why I didn't do this. Perhaps the maximum speed of the optical bay? I'll have to look up the specs again to see if it wouldn't be worth the trade off, as it would be great to make the old goat more portable. Thanks for the tip!
My original SSD setup didn't actually have any problems in the 2007 model MacBook Pro, so I can't imagine you would either. The speedup is absolutely incredible, even with a cheap Chinese SSD.
"restarts required once daily"? Do you mean restarting the crashed application (Chrome), or an actual daily reboot of the OS?
I suppose it depends on the drive, controller and firmware. I slapped an OCZ SSD into my Early 2011 Macbook Pro on day one, and it's been running flawlessly ever since.
Have you really be able to track crashes back to your SSD? This could be an issue with so many things.