[leothekim]

You think your coworkers drag you down? You think you're punished for not having kids? You're comparing having children to entrepreneurship? If you really want to know what's wrong in the work place, you need to take a good long look in the mirror.

[techboots]

Yes. Coworkers definitely drag you down - especially those who game the benefits system or who play politics. If you don't see this, wake up and look around your cubicle.

And yes, if having a kid grants you 4 months of paid leave... it will definitely feel like punishment for the rest of the single guys stuck in the office. I have a dog and cat I need to take care of. If you get to leave to take care of your kid, I should get to leave to take care of my pets.

[leothekim]

/cc shithackernewssays

[jasonlotito]

> If you get to leave to take care of your kid, I should get to leave to take care of my pets.

You can. Suggesting otherwise is a flat out lie.

> especially those who game the benefits system or who play politics.

You mean those that take what's offered to them? So…

You don't take pay? You don't vacation?

I mean, we already know you don't think you can leave.

And, maybe the bigger problem is you don't see why companies would want to do this. How it makes the company better as a whole to provide for this.

[tigroferoce]

This vacation consideration is interesting. Do coworkers that go on vacation also drag you down? What about ill people? Are you saying you would like working only with single healthy people? Don't you feel like you would be losing smart guys that may want to go on holiday time to time or would like a family? Or your work is so simple that anyone can do repetitively for hours and hours and hours without stop - a work that does not require the smartest people, but the more-workhorse people perhaps?

[jasonlotito]

Pretty sure your comment wasn't meant to be a reply to mine. =) Needless to say, you make good points.

[Hytosys]

>comparing a dog that needs nothing more than a walk and a bowl of food and water to a human being whose first years will be an extrapolation on his or her societal impact for years to come

Surely you must be having a laugh.

[techboots]

@hytosis A dog needs "nothing more than a bowl of water and food?" Well, that's subjective. If that's the case, then I think your kid needs nothing more than a bowl of water and food too. Same thing.

[Hytosys]

Sure. Then I'd retract and say that what your dog really needs is to be out in the wild being raised by its own real doggy parents (who most likely get a 120-moon leave from work).