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by malfist 1 day ago
Why are you promoting content by Martin Shkreli? You know, the guy who committed securities fraud to rip off desperate patients?
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I really don't like this guy, seriously he's a shark (he's probably right, but what a jerk): "If you know somebody has to liquidate, the best thing you have to do, unfortunately, sadly, Darwinian is to go sell all the positions you have in common, then start shorting everything they have. It accelerates the downfall as quickly as you can." of course then he says 'It's nothing I would ever do...'
That’s truly the playbook when you are on the other side of a levered firm though.
Yeah, probably. Its too bad.
If there's any purpose in hedge funds as a structure it's that they provide liquidity for the market. So it's in everyone's best interest to let them do price discovery against each other.
It's not just liquidity. Price discovery helps everyone. The earlier the correct price is discovered, the less we're all screwed when the bubble pops. I think they're rewarded too well for the function they serve but whaddya gonna do.
I mean, most of them underperform S&P, at least after fees.
Why too bad? This is how the market ultimately comes to the right price.
Not really.

Using leverage has risks that you're supposed to understand before you do it.

It's not a free lunch, unless you're putting the sharks' interest ahead of yours. Or clueless, which was the case here, as L.A. is not a trader and has no business running a fund.

Too bad for the people that were overleveraged? I don’t see why, they assumed too much risk and lost. This isn’t a WSB guy blowing up, it’s a collection of capital from sophisticated investors that understand the risks.
Because hn is primarily about competence, knowledge and tech, which Martin has in spades.

The arguments against him barely hold water in general anyway.

A federal jury sure thought they held water.
Martin was convicted on three counts of securities fraud. The TL;DR is he was shilling a successful fund while sitting on massive losses. A Madoff kinda thing.

This has nothing to do with what people actually hate him for, and for which he was not convicted, because extracting money from a captive clientele is exactly what the US healthcare system is designed to do.

lmao
So competent sociopaths get their roses on HN? Good to know.
He has done more for wallstreet-to-mainstreet transparency than you believe.

His investor literacy youtube backlog is unusually deep and as of yet has only shilled his own trading product.

But your point is valid, he will never live down the fraud conviction and his face is so punchable.

The shady crypto projects he did after his release are also good reasons to distrust the guy
Why do you think that just sharing a link to an earlier HN post means 'promoting' someone? I referenced the HN post because I found that it's less about Martin Shkreli himself and more about a quality conversation with good analysis about the inner workings of 'Hedge fund' world and market dynamics.

If you've a better source, share it; I'll have a look and might use that one in the future. Otherwise, if you can't contribute in a constructive manner, stop making baseless comments about others intention without understanding them first.

You can still learn from thieves and crooks. Especially if they break down what they did and how they did it.
Just keep in mind you might be the mark of his current scheme
He's an absolute ghoul, and to see sibling comments praising him breaks my heart. Yeah, he "did his time", but he also took advantage of sick people for immense profit. You don't get a pass for that.
He's a person that has told the whole world who he is, and some people, especially temporarily embarrassed billionaires on this platform, love him for his unmasked self.
Like black hats getting cyber sec jobs, they probably know a thing or two.
If you’re gonna be a hater you at least gotta do it right! The pricing and the securities fraud were two separate things you can count against him.
He is one of the few folks in finance who regularly streams and is directionally interesting. He served his time.
I don't think those two cases are related

he's a relatively well known figure in finance and pharma investing

He has served his time for those crimes
Because he’s an expert.

Edit: I don't do podcasts but this is absolutely worth some of your time to watch.

seems like someone who is knowledgeable about financial shenanigans
Can you provide a comparable or superior analysis by someone else?