[amazingamazing]

Age checks are inevitable sadly. No one would tolerate “adult” services and goods rendered directly to children without age check.

The main argument is that there is an assumption this data is not stored in the real world, which is only sometimes true. Some places like airports and some concerts, shows, bars, etc. scan identification with digital readers whose data is presumably retained. One reason for this is because fake identification is a thing so defense against this converges to the same solution as digital verification.

Imo best to spend energy thinking of the appropriate solution that minimizes privacy violation than conceptual fighting against the idea.

[neuroticnews25]

> No one would tolerate “adult” services and goods rendered directly to children without age check

I don't think it's fair to say that parents who don't care to use parental control measures already available to them have no tolerance for that.

[neuroticnews25]

Also, for a more substantive answer see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49108086

We could settle on a privacy-preserving idea, like physical cards with single-use codes sold in stores after showing ID, similar to alcohol. Then a few years later they would ban cash payments for those. Then require sellers/payment operators to report all transactions to a central registry. The slope has always been slippery.

[amazingamazing]

Parental controls don’t solve all of the issues. The same way telling your kids not to do drugs is not a solution to vaping use.

[neuroticnews25]

If you don't even try to use simple available measures to prevent your own child from vaping then it's unfair to say you have zero tolerance for children vaping.

[amazingamazing]

Strange comment, plenty of parents try and fail to stop their kids to do certain things.

[neuroticnews25]

Did you mean "plenty of parents wouldn't tolerate “adult” services and goods rendered directly to children" when you said "No one would tolerate “adult” services and goods rendered directly to children"?

[account42]

Then maybe we need to teach parenting in schools instead of trying to outsource it to the government.

[lII1lIlI11ll]

That is okay. The optimal amount of "issues" is greater than zero.