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by philipallstar 4 days ago
Neither of your examples were for the last 1300 years, so all your paragraphs are irrelevant.
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I directly asked you to stop being evasive and to specifically name the ideologies you're speaking about.

We can't even trace "death to the west" or "from the river to the sea" as ideologies or even phrases beyond 100 years ago. so I'm flabbergasted you would try to claim such ideologies have been occurring for 1300 years, and then turn around and try to get pedantic about whether the word is "for" or "within".

Either way, you're just displaying your deep cultural ignorance. There's no more reason to spend time on this conversation.

The ideology is militant Islam. Which has been for 1300 years or so.

Not all of Islam, particularly as it rules places it doesn't need to be so militant (although it can turn to something at least as bad as a governing ideology), and also when Islam is a minority religion the majority of its adherents seem as normal as anyone else, but the militant aspect has been consistent over the centuries.

900 years ago, Christians were crusading across Europe and slaughtering tens of thousands in religiously motivated militant action.

Furthermore, Christian European colonization of the Arab world is what led to any modern notion of resentment against Europe or the West. Prior to this, Muslim militant action was no different than all of the religiously-motivated conflicts of the rest of the world; nearly all conflict involved or invoked religion, and conflict at the time was dominated by large, oppressive empires; everyone was fighting.

Your world view is poisoned by centuries of this conflict and by the West's own perceived divine authority. US Generals were calling the war in Iran "God's divine plan". So your attempts to paint this ideology as belonging to Muslims, and to equate several distinct cultural issues as one, only belies the extreme level of ignorance in which you're operating.

And there are around ~2bil followers of both Christianity and Islam. Islam is not a "minority religion". Did you get your facts from the back of a Fox News-sponsored cereal box?