[soulofmischief]

I directly asked you to stop being evasive and to specifically name the ideologies you're speaking about.

We can't even trace "death to the west" or "from the river to the sea" as ideologies or even phrases beyond 100 years ago. so I'm flabbergasted you would try to claim such ideologies have been occurring for 1300 years, and then turn around and try to get pedantic about whether the word is "for" or "within".

Either way, you're just displaying your deep cultural ignorance. There's no more reason to spend time on this conversation.