[dayyan]

Visual disorder is real harm, not a proxy or suburban preference.

Encampments produce fires, needles, waste, blocked sidewalks, and local crime spikes. Surveys show high mental illness and substance use rates among the homeless. Mild climate plus weak enforcement concentrates the problem beyond local poverty levels. Treating every complaint as coded racism blocks diagnosis.

Unpermitted vendors create safety and fairness issues for taxed businesses. Illegal graffiti is vandalism that costs owners. Oakland fines them. Murals are different.

Pure tolerance by the left produced tent cities. Enforcement and treatment shows recent drops in both homelessness and crime.

People who want orderly streets are not required to absorb the costs. Working neighborhoods take most of the hit.

[tremon]

> Encampments produce fires, needles, waste, blocked sidewalks, and local crime spikes

Are you saying that if it weren't for such an encampment, homeless people wouldn't be keeping warm, shooting up, and relieving themselves? I don't see how that can be the case. It seems to me that what you are pointing out is that encampments make these events more visible by containing them in one place, rather than them being diffused throughout the city.