That's how progressive enhancement works. The website should work fine if JS is disabled. Then it's faster via htmx if JS is enabled, and more so if the backend is tuned as well.
None of the things HTMX adds will work. Which is easy to test by just turning off Javascript on most (any?) examples or sites using HTMX.
Because none of that is standard, none of that is understood by browsers, and requires HTMX to work.
Which is also besides the point of discussing whether or not HTMX invents its own templating, DSL, and requires the server to be aware of HTMX to to work properly.
Lol. Even the hamburger menu doesn't work on htmx.org without Javascript.
I'll let you find any working examples yourself.
Most sites won't work or will be broken, too. Obviously You have to actually try and work on progressive enhancement, and not rely on marketing blurbs and promises of magic.
I wonder if people blindly defenfing their favorite thingd actually know anything about them.
Hamburger menu on the htmx.org site using JavaScript has nothing to do with htmx the framework itself, they’re completely unrelated. It wouldn’t be difficult to make the hamburger menu work without any JS by just using the Popover API, which again is completely unrelated to htmx and can be used by any frontend framework.
I assure you I know quite a bit more than you when it comes to htmx and progressive enhancement, having built multiple progressively enhanced htmx apps that work almost exactly the same without JS.
> Hamburger menu on the htmx.org site using JavaScript has nothing to do with htmx the framework itself, they’re completely unrelated.
Yup, the unworking hamburger menu on the website preaching about progressive enhancement and built entirely with this framework "has nothing to do with htmx".
All examples on HTMX site that we're told will just work "with full page reload" and that don't work also have nothing to do with HTMX.
HTMX is magical progressive enhancement "The things work, albeit with a full page load" somehow are broken on HTMX site itself and on most sites built with it, but all this also has nothing to do with it. Because "things just work"
The htmx website is full of demos showing how htmx works. Htmx is a JavaScript framework. Unsurprisingly, some of these demos don’t work when JavaScript is turned off. This thread is getting absurd now.
Because none of that is standard, none of that is understood by browsers, and requires HTMX to work.
Which is also besides the point of discussing whether or not HTMX invents its own templating, DSL, and requires the server to be aware of HTMX to to work properly.