[orphereus]

My anegdotal experience in EU is that ghosting AFTER the company responds to your application is very, very rare.

I would always get the usual "Unfortunately, we have decided..." charades. At least no ghosting.

I can think of only one situation, and it was kinda peculiar in its own right (they called me 8 months after my application because they were in a jam and I said I won't be able to start in such a short notice they wanted, and they warned me in advance they would ghost me because the HR was I presume in a crunch).

As for the ghostings BEFORE they even respond to the job application, I'd say that it is around 40% of job applications that I never get a response after "We have received your job application yada yada yada".

Again, this is just my anegdotal experience. Maybe my experience in EU job market is a rarity.

[throw-the-towel]

My experience in France was that almost everyone ghosts you, including after three rounds of interviews.

[inigyou]

It's probably because they don't want to be liable for giving a reason.

[danek_szy]

Well, then they might just respond: Thank you, but no thank you… No liability, but at least they wouldn’t leave the person hanging…

[OptionOfT]

Which should be illegal. You should be able to formulate why you prefer someone.

And it would prevent companies from ghosting people.

[matchbok3]

Making this "illegal" does not solve the problem at all. People really need to stop providing this knee jerk outlawing reaction to things they don't like. I assume you'd also make it illegal for a person to turn down a company without a reason, right? How about we make that 6 months in prison.

[johnnyanmac]

>People really need to stop providing this knee jerk outlawing reaction to things they don't like.

No, we need way more regulation on jobs in the US. This country is sacking millions in real time but reporting record profits. That isn't right nor healthy.

>I assume you'd also make it illegal for a person to turn down a company without a reason, right?

Who holds the cards in the relationship, again? It's illegal to distriminate against hirees, but a person can choose any reason to take an offer over another.

[matchbok3]

The EU has tons of regulations on this stuff and we see what "innovation" they have. No thanks.

Relationship? There is no relationship. It is a business transaction. Both parties are free to leave at any point.

[Dylan16807]

> Making this "illegal" does not solve the problem at all.

Sure it does. You send an email politely reminding them they need to write out a basic reason, and then you get the reason. If they're crazy stubborn and absolutely refuse, small claims court is probably next.

I'm pretty skeptical about the idea of making this a law, but a law could solve the problem.

> I assume you'd also make it illegal for a person to turn down a company without a reason, right?

There's a huge power imbalance here, but okay sure why not? Not many people are turning down job offers after interviewing, but if they do they can spend two minutes writing why.

> How about we make that 6 months in prison.

This strawman is a good way to indicate you didn't spend a single second thinking through the actual implications.

[johnnyanmac]

> I'm pretty skeptical about the idea of making this a law, but a law could solve the problem.

We need more labor laws in general, but this one should be more of a good ol' fashioned social shaming situation. make it painful to try and outright ignore people you started talking to.

[matchbok3]

I spent a lot of time thinking about this, actually. If this silly idea became law, companies would find some lawyer-approved boilerplate that would satisfy the silly law and accomplish nothing. Nothing would change. I guess you would say the candidate could sue because the company didn't provide warm fuzzy custom-tailored apologies about why they didn't fall in love? Or a specific "reason"? Is a judge going to adjudicate that "reason"?

It's not a strawman. It's either jail time or a fine, right? Have you thought about the implications?

[prodmod]

Really no offense, but in all truth, I would probably skip an application with simple misspellings. Anecdotal is what you're looking for.

[orphereus]

This comment really has no purpose other than being petulent.

[prodmod]

We're talking about being ghosted or rejected for applications and interviews. It actually seems very relevant. Details matter. Don't give anyone a reason to reject you, because there are hundreds (or thousands) of applications who are also qualified and ran spellcheck. I'm really not trying to be a jerk.

[namtab00]

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