[skeledrew]

> AI is stealing all the fun parts.

Disagree. AI has is taking all the parts that remove the fun. Now people can truly have fun with that which they find interest in, because there's a way to avoid the parts they're not interested in engaging with, with little to no consequence.

[MinimalAction]

Disagree. In many professions, people were paid to endure the boring parts to be able to finally do fun parts. See academia; a professor writes grants, attends committee meetings, teaches (sometimes undesirably) and such, to finally go do research which is fun. If the fun parts are predominantly done by AI, and are removing people from getting paid, what fills one's stomach?

[skeledrew]

Stomach-filling ability is actually tangential to whether one has to engage with the bits they don't want to engage with, since it isn't precluded by the fun parts (there are people out there who are able to fill their stomachs from only doing what they find fun). But also it turns out to be a good example of that which forces one into doing that which they don't find fun. And IMO this - pretty typical - conflation really emphasizes how much we're stuck in and need to change this system that forces so many people to do things they don't want to do so they can fill their stomachs.

[haickernews]

This. Cannot emphasize this enough. I used to be bogged down with all sorts of decisions. What framework should I use? How can I make this code cleaner? What should this project be about? Is this decision going to bite me in the ass later?

Now I can safely hand this all off to Claude while leisurely browsing e621. The unlock is incredible, and I wouldn't trade this velocity for anything.

[spiresofagartha]

This is a slippery slope. Having only fun things to do make them obviously boring. The human being craves contrast.

That assuming what you've said is true, which is not. In a work environment, you're forced to optimize whatever that there is, regardless if it's fun or not.

Moreover, there is always fun to be had even in tasks you've found boring beforehand.

[skeledrew]

> Having only fun things to do make them obviously boring.

This doesn't really pan out the way you think it does as people can always choose to do boring things if they want (if there's even any truth to your assertion). Unless your argument is something along the lines of humans need to be forced to do things they don't want so they're able to find fun in anything, which I think is pretty... wild.

[spiresofagartha]

I do think humans need to be forced to do things they don't want. You don't need to believe my words. Just watch how many people get bored in their long vacations.

If all you do is having fun, it's obvious you'll need a new bar over and over (which is literally happening nowadays).

[skeledrew]

That sounds like systematic conditioning. Before there was actually a system, say back in cave people days, how did they operate without the system? During medieval days when monarchies were the rage, how did the royalty - and nobles to an extent - operate when they had serfs doing everything for them? Coming to more modern history, what about slave masters/mistresses?

Throughout history there has always been at least one group in societies (if not the whole) who didn't have to do anything they didn't want, and said groups have survived through the centuries. Now we're just at the point where it's very feasible for all in any given society to once again not have to be forced into anything and still thrive. What's needed is for that incompatible system that conditions forced labour to be thrown out.