[skeledrew]

> Having only fun things to do make them obviously boring.

This doesn't really pan out the way you think it does as people can always choose to do boring things if they want (if there's even any truth to your assertion). Unless your argument is something along the lines of humans need to be forced to do things they don't want so they're able to find fun in anything, which I think is pretty... wild.

[spiresofagartha]

I do think humans need to be forced to do things they don't want. You don't need to believe my words. Just watch how many people get bored in their long vacations.

If all you do is having fun, it's obvious you'll need a new bar over and over (which is literally happening nowadays).

[skeledrew]

That sounds like systematic conditioning. Before there was actually a system, say back in cave people days, how did they operate without the system? During medieval days when monarchies were the rage, how did the royalty - and nobles to an extent - operate when they had serfs doing everything for them? Coming to more modern history, what about slave masters/mistresses?

Throughout history there has always been at least one group in societies (if not the whole) who didn't have to do anything they didn't want, and said groups have survived through the centuries. Now we're just at the point where it's very feasible for all in any given society to once again not have to be forced into anything and still thrive. What's needed is for that incompatible system that conditions forced labour to be thrown out.