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by mordae 5 days ago
Please also note that ADHD-like symptoms can present from sleep Apnea/UARS-induced sleep deprivation and the probability of having Apnea/UARS rises with age. Smoothly for men and a with a sudden jump after menopause for women.

So if you feel like you are getting more ADHD-like issues, do consider a sleep study. Early tells are easy: you often feel like shit in the morning.

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I recently went through this. I was diagnosed with ADHD 15 years ago and have been managing it, but over the last 2-3 years I had been experiencing increased levels of brain fog, fatigue, and by ability to focus had deteriorated to the point I wasn't sure if I would be able to continue working. I had a sleep study done 10 years ago that only found Night Terror Disorder, but no signs of sleep apnea. I did another sleep study about 6 months ago and it turns out while I wasn't having apnea events I had constant and persistent hypopnea. Started using a CPAP and it feels like I've been given a second lease on life. FWIW, I am a very active and in shape individual within a healthy weight range. Don't wait to get tested if you have even the slightest worry you may have it.
Doesn't even need to be a CPAP. I had a sleep study done and it said I basically only had sleep apnea when lying on my back, and my doctor suggested a dental appliance to pull my lower jaw forward.

I got one from my dentist for way too much money, it broke, so instead I got a "snore reducing mouthpiece" from ZQuiet or SnoreRX which is basically the exact same thing but they haven't done a clinical study to show it reduces sleep apnea. I wear one every night along with a nose strip (like Breathe Right, but a different brand that I like better) and my mornings feel like I was hung over are long gone.

I was prescribed modafinil earlier this year and it worked well when I took it but it was intense at the useful dose so the doctor put in for a sleep study. It was a 3 month wait but I am finally getting it done next week an I'm hopeful it leads to a conclusive diagnosis.

I also noticed my issues were worse after my 3rd bout of covid :-/ I had very high sensitivity to alcohol and caffeine after the 2nd bout and have largely cut both out of my life (I never drank more than 20 drinks / year in my life anyway).

What machine and mask do you have? I had a bad CPAP experience 2017ish and navigating sleep apnea treatment with ADHD kinda sucks. I got a recent sleep study done, but the doctor's office seems like a sales farm for a specific CPAP brand/model and they aggressively steered me away from an oral appliance.
I understand your pain. One of the cruel realities of ADHD is how difficult it makes doing the things needed to help you treat it. I honestly just went with whatever my doctor/insurance gave me. Its a Luna G3X and my insurance uses a company called BetterNight. They have been fine so far, but I know there are also companies you can use that don't take insurance that I have generally heard are better to work with if you are okay with not using insurance. Lofta was what was recommended to me by a coworker.
Thank you for the report and the empathy! Insurance is a mixed bag. Great if they pay for a $4k oral appliance. Not great if them paying for a CPAP is conditional on hitting the initial usage compliance targets, or they dictate specific machines.
Resmed 10 series are super hackable. Don't get a 11 The 11 is just a cost saving revision. Masks are very individual but a lot of providers will do free exchanges.
One of the many reasons why we should air drop GLP-1 over the entire country, like condoms in Bangladesh!
The satiation effect that GLP-1s cause also affects motivational drive. I've noticed my ability to get work done is hampered when I am at higher doses of my ozempic.
> I've noticed my ability to get work done is hampered when I am at higher doses of my ozempic.

You should be using LLM agents anyway. It's the solution to every problem.

Can I have LLMs replace my GLP-1?
Yes. LLMs are the new zombo.com. You can do anything with LLMs. Anything at all.

The only limit is yourself.

Bruh, you're not using ChatGLP?
If only an LLM could clean my house
GLP-1 has negative side effects (loss of lean mass for example) that I most definitely do not want.
No thanks, don’t need it, don’t want it!
Please, no. GLP1s leave you worse off than when you started if you stop taking them. Weight is also not necessarily the factor that leads to sleep apnea; I got diagnosed while having a healthy weight in my 30s.
>Please, no. GLP1s leave you worse off than when you started if you stop taking them.

This doesn't seem factual, or at the very least, not that simple?

https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/two-years-after-stoppi...

Not the OP, but there was a lot of talk that glp1 had a negative effect on bone density and in older people it was especially problematic.

There is evidence that is not the case though https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878541/

Something I'd picked up somewhere a decade or two ago was losing weight too fast can cause problems with bone and muscle density. So it could be related but not a direct effect.

I think they were referring to rebound weight though, something else I'd heard about these drugs that also doesn't affect everyone. A scarier one was one person whose weight got too low so they stopped taking it, but for some reason had a lot of trouble gaining any weight and getting up to a healthy level.

In old people obesity predicts longer lifespans, so GLP-1 might not be indicated anyway.
Talk about a terrible indictment of western culture if I ever heard of one!