[mmonaghan]

I think distillation is inevitable and pretty hard to prevent but I also dunno why anyone would spend billions to train frontier models if there's enough distillation going on to get near it with much lower spend.

[slashdave]

Oh, you mean not commit fraud? Why would any respectable company do that?

[chrismarlow9]

This seems odd to say about a group of companies that supposedly built this on scraped data.

[dannyw]

Didn't Anthropic say they banned OpenAI for doing it on their models?

[slashdave]

Well, depends if you want to call OpenAI "respectable"

[potsandpans]

Except this is not fraud. And just because a company _really_ wants to make a trillion dollar valuation doesn't mean they get to invent a new type of fraud.

[slashdave]

Yes, breaking the terms of use is fraud. And, no, no self-respecting company would do this deliberately.

[potsandpans]

you seem to think just saying things makes them true. how's that working out for you?