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by ButlerianJihad 13 days ago
Talk about "data sovereignty"--imagine if people begin finding out that their data "lives" on servers under jurisdiction of some tribal authority, instead of/alongside the United States!

Sovereign Indian tribles can practically get away with murder compared to entities that are regulated by ordinary US law. I was recently the victim of some kind of tribal predatory loan service that was way off in Northern California. I looked into it, and determined that there was basically nothing I could do to pursue it legally. It is unclear whether a "tribal loan account" could be legally pursued by ordinary US collection agencies, but it's rather crazy to imagine that kind of activity that targets ordinary Americans.

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If you're not an Indian (us legal term) then I believe you can file a federal case, can you? Tribal law can't supercede basic American law from what I understand especially not when there's a non Indian involved.
> Tribal law can't supercede basic American law

It does if you're on tribal land–that's generally held to ber sovereign territory by U.S. law (at least for commercial disputes). But if you're an American outside tribal land, and are not an Indian, I believe you're right. (Counterpoint, sort of: Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl [1].)

[1] https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/570/637/

This is family law though. That's different. The op said he was defrauded which is criminal.

If both perp and victim are indian then the tribal courts can handle a criminal case

But if one is not then it's an automatic federal jurisdiction I believe