[csoups14]

Every day investors absolutely buy these shares; these price targets are publicly available and SpaceX shares are equally publicly available. You've claimed everyone who is disagreeing with you in this thread is not providing a coherent argument. Have a great day mate.

[ericmay]

> Every day investors absolutely buy these shares; these price targets are publicly available and SpaceX shares are equally publicly available.

And you can just not buy the shares. It's very straightforward.

[ceejayoz]

> And you can just not buy the shares. It's very straightforward.

Sure, but the SEC exists, in theory, to make that decision one you can make an informed decision on, because con artists don't typically put a disclaimer in that says "this is bullshit".

[ericmay]

You can't make an informed decision on it unless you do your own research and analyze an individual stock. Then it's up to you to decide if it's worth investing in. This is true for any investment. Just because you think something is bullshit doesn't mean it is. Maybe you're just wrong. Buy the security or don't.

[ceejayoz]

> You can't make an informed decision on it unless you do your own research…

Most retail investors suffer from significant information asymmetry. We have regulations, in part, to mitigate this fact.

> Just because you think something is bullshit doesn't mean it is.

A point you yourself might remember when arguing on the internet.

[ericmay]

> Most retail investors suffer from significant information asymmetry. We have regulations, in part, to mitigate this fact.

I don't disagree - however that's a separate point from the OP's it's all a scam and pump-and-dump sentiments and doesn't detract from any point I've made.

> A point you yourself might remember when arguing on the internet.

I know it feels great to write things like this but I don't care - my point stands alone and it's only applicable to you and what you wrote regarding valuations.

[ceejayoz]

A pump and dump is information asymmetry writ large. It’s how it works!

A pump and dump scam doesn’t care if valuation goes down as long as they can exit profitably.

[nradov]

You appear to have misunderstood the role of the SEC. They will investigate civil violations of securities laws but there has been no credible allegation of such here. They don't take responsibility for stock valuation.

[ceejayoz]

> They don't take responsibility for stock valuation.

Nice strawman, but that's not what I said.

They can, and do, intervene in things like lying to investors to inflate valuations.

[nradov]

What is the specific lie in this case? I mean something that's factually incorrect, not just optimistic.

[ceejayoz]

> I mean something that's factually incorrect, not just optimistic.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2075291102324641925

At what point does the optimism become a lie?