[parl_match]

> If a human writes a novel, it's inherently worth more because it's hard-earned and anchored to experiences we share. I want to support that

I'd extend on this as well: the process of creating changes you. In a technical sense, where you approach a problem and the way you solve that problem informs you. Both your problem solving skills, creative skills, but also even understanding how a compromise works.

This is why I have minimal compunction about an experienced engineer using AI-assisted coding ("hey claude, define this data class") versus finding AI-art to be repugnant.

The act of creating an artistic work is both an expression, but also the act of ideating and then executing on that changes you. Experience, emotion, and other more intangible concepts.

[wincy]

I use AI to make songs and pictures for my friends. I barely even listen to music that I didn’t have a hand in making. It’s my favorite genre by far. My kids too. Personalized studio quality songs all day, every day. I suddenly have the power and time to make things I enjoy. I think there’s going to be a hollowing out that’s going to happen where we might not have another Michael Jackson or Taylor Swift or famous musicians because why bother when you can just listen to your own custom tailored tunes. All that matters to me is that I like the song. I don’t care if someone built a custom keyboard or did it on a Stradivarius violin.

[parl_match]

> I suddenly have the power and time to make things I enjoy.

You don't make. You ask the ai to make a song about some vague concept and then clap like a seal as it delivers you un-challenging and bias-confirming slop.

> I think there’s going to be a hollowing out ... All that matters to me is that I like the song.

Everyone consumes, and nobody makes everything. But you're describing a future in which nobody makes anything and we all just suckle directly on the soft serve machine.

How grim.

[VBprogrammer]

I think for many people, maybe even most people, the story and the people behind the music is every bit as important as the music itself. I don't see how an AI can capture this.

[jagenabler2]

you should really consider trying things that don't exactly fit your ideals. Listen to music you don't think you'll like, or watch a movie that you've never heard of. You find threads that you do like and learn to understand the parts you don't. Discomfort and friction is how we grow as people, it's how we gain perspective, and how our interests evolve.

Otherwise, if you're going to keep consuming the exact slop content that you're looking for, you're going to stagnate as a person.

[parl_match]

> you're going to stagnate as a person

He's bragging about that, even. It's really grim.

[dmarcos]

I mostly agree with you but, how do you square the use of other types of automation that are not AI? e.g computer animation vs hand-drawn, CAD software for engineering and architecture… Are those lesser art forms or we’re just used to them?

[parl_match]

I don't have enough experience in those fields to really firm up a judgement from my perspective.

The act of creation not just creates, it informs you. For example, when placing a wall with CAD for architecture, maybe you realize that some walls on an non-level roof have visually unappealing or difficult wall/roof joints. And then you consider that for future designs? Or you pause and think further about how a person interacts with that room. You can see how the act of creation delivered meaningful feedback to you, as a person.

IDK that's just an example I could come up with, you should really ask an architect or ID guy