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by yakshaving_jgt 21 days ago
Only the russians are targeting civilians.
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You are misinformed.

Here is one of the top Ukrainian propagandists posting in his personal channel a video from Belgorod (Russia) that shows wounded Russian women screaming and thrashing in agony (the text reads "Happy New Year, bitches") after Ukrainian MLRS strike at the city: https://t.me/dmytrogordon_official/39688

Here is the Ukraine targeting the same high-rise apartment building in Kazan with multiple drones: https://t.me/readovkanews/91042

Here is the Ukraine blowing a bridge in Russia exactly when a passenger train was passing under it leading to deaths of civilians including children: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/01/deaths-as-russ...

Here is Ukrainian regime striking a college with multiple drones and killing 21 students: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Starobilsk_strike#Casualt...

You are a russian propagandist.

We’ve seen you here before, and we’ve called out your bullshit before.

Go to the front Ivan. Put seeds in your pockets.

Anyone can look at your comment history and see that you are here to antagonise, and to spread disinformation in service of the russian regime and its leading war criminal.

This forum is meant to be for substantive discussion primarily about the intersection of technology and things that people in STEM would be intellectually curious about.

This forum is not for spreading lies as you have been doing for so long.

I see that you don't like my comment.

I'm sure you'll find an excuse for Ukrainian nationalists in each case I linked to - that's fine, it fits your beliefs about current Ukrainian regime.

But then will you be able to find any case where Ukrainian civilians died that couldn't be excused in exactly the same way?

Can you be consistent in your judgement?

Your terrorists have been launching missiles and drones at me and my neighbours for years.

I see it with my own eyes.

Your attacks on the people I care about dearly are routine. Every fucking day, you scum try and kill us.

Seeds in your pocket. Go to the front.

I’ll tell you what. Give me your address and I’ll send you a postcard from the Ukrainian city of Odesa, where the Ukrainian flag flies proudly on every street, and where your terrorists will never reach. Because Odesa is Ukraine forever. Kherson is Ukraine. Kharkiv is Ukraine. Kyiv is Ukraine. Donbas is Ukraine. Crimea is Ukraine.

Go to the front.

>the Ukrainian city of Odesa

It's Odessa, the city founded by the Russian Empress Catherine the Great in 1794 on the land taken by the Russian Army from the Ottoman Empire.[0]

The only thing Odessa is known for under the Ukrainian rule is burning 42 pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens[1] by Ukrainian nationalists. After that a Ukrainian president, billionaire Poroshenko, praised the city for being truly banderite[2] city. Yes, that is considered a praise by the Kiev regime.

"The European Court of Human Rights Court held, unanimously, that there had been: violations of Article 2 (right to life/investigation) of the European Convention on Human Rights, on account of the relevant authorities’ failure to do everything that could reasonably be expected of them to prevent the violence in Odesa on 2 May 2014, to stop that violence after its outbreak, to ensure timely rescue measures for people trapped in the fire, and to institute and conduct an effective investigation into the events" [3]

>Because Odesa is Ukraine forever.

It's not for a Polish expat to decide. The Kiev regime is not hunting you when you walk the streets of Odessa.[4] They won't grab you and send to the frontline. When men are desperately calling bystanders for help, you walk by, look away and keep supporting the regime that does that.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Jassy

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Casualties

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banderite

[3] https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&...

[4] https://busification.org/en/city/odesa

> The only thing Odessa is known for under the Ukrainian rule is burning 42 pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens[1] by Ukrainian nationalists.

Another complete lie, constantly perpetuated by Z-patriot zombies. And if you actually read the source you linked to, you would see that most of the antagonists of the clashes on this day were russians. They came from russia, or from russian-occupied Moldova, specifically to try to destabilise southern Ukraine.

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Here, I have something for you.

https://imgur.com/nuAM1sy

This is the first medal I received from the Ukrainian military for volunteering and supporting them as they destroy the terrorists that you support.

https://imgur.com/7wILMO1

This is the second medal I received from the Ukrainian military for volunteering and supporting them as they destroy the terrorists that you support.

https://imgur.com/6bboPxH

This is the third medal I received from the Ukrainian military for volunteering and supporting them as they destroy the terrorists that you support.

The lies you continue to spread on this website are the best inspiration for me to go for my fourth medal. So, in a way, thank you. Thank you for encouraging myself and others to continue helping russian invaders to meet their fate, blown to pieces, left rotting on a Ukrainian field under the harsh sun, their corpses feasted on by wild dogs. Surely you've seen enough videos of exactly this happening. Ah, the miracle of modern technology.

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Rest assured — as I do — that nothing you say here actually changes the trajectory of this war that your country launched against Ukraine. You will never reach the Ukrainian city of Odesa. And you will be forcibly removed from Crimea.

@dang This user is a known troll spreading Russian disinformation and aggravating users, that's pretty much all their contributions on the forum. They are at the second account (first being protomolecule). I've seen accounts banned for less than this.
The Ukrainian executed 100k Polish civilians not too long ago, but I'm sure now they are angels.
You’re not a Konfederacja voter by any chance?

I’m so fucking embarrassed to be Polish and hear this populism bullshit from Nawrocki and any other compromised russian shill.

You know who killed our people? The fucking russians. Remember when the bad guys came from Berlin? The other bad guys came from Moscow. Don’t forget that.

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For anyone unsure what this throwaway account is talking about: when he says “not too long ago” in a discussion about a war that is happening literally today, he’s talking about 1943. If this isn’t a bad faith argument from an antagonist, then I don’t know what is.

Stop. The whole thing is ridiculous from simple historical perspective. Poland was razed down, pillaged, 'visited', 'saved', enriched and whole host of other euphemisms over the course of its hundreds of years of various types of existence by a rather long list of conquerors.

<< when he says “not too long ago” in a discussion about a war that is happening literally today, he’s talking about 1943. If this isn’t a bad faith argument from an antagonist, then I don’t know what is.

Sigh, it is not bad faith. If anything, it is bad faith to pretend past did not happen.

Nobody is pretending this didn’t happen. Least of all the Ukrainians.
They literally celebrate the group that did it, tofl this day. Zalensky recently had a medal/award rescinded by Poland because of it.
Please assume that the people you are talking to you are not ignorant.

In this case, I believe I am substantially more up to date with both Ukrainian and Polish politics than you are. From your comments, it appears your knowledge on the topic is superficial at best.

Polish estimates are closer to 20k, btw. And Polish forces executed thousands of Ukrainians as well during the same events.

Also don't forget russians executed 22k Polish prisoners of war in 1940 and lied about it for decades.

Germans killed millions of Polish citizens - but they are good people now, not like Ukrainians who are holding back russians? Russians who are casually invade neighbors once in a while and committing atrocities

Hmm, it is mildly fascinating that it has to be said. Germans in government typically don't celebrate the adherents to the events that Poles were subjected to. Ukrainian government on the other hand uses lets call it something of an ambiguous framing to make it charitable. Similarly, Russia was saving Poles from WW2 ( all while effectively enforcing its particular brand of crazy upon the land ).

Now, Ukraine is absorbing Russia's onslaught ( and that is something Poles benefit from even if they don't admit it ), but lets be clear. They ( Ukraine ) are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

> Similarly, Russia was saving Poles from WW2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...

I have to remember to stop trying to use euphemisms on the world wide web.
>Germans killed millions of Polish citizens - but they are good people now, not like Ukrainians

Germans condemn what they did, the Ukrainians are making Pantheon[0][1] of their war criminals who committed genocide[2].

[0] https://kyivindependent.com/pantheon-of-ukrainian-heroes-to-...

[1] https://tvpworld.com/94337029/polands-divided-right-puts-ukr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia...

Do you also inform Jewish people about the lower bound estimates of their people killed, or only Polish people?