[yakshaving_jgt]

Please assume that the people you are talking to you are not ignorant.

In this case, I believe I am substantially more up to date with both Ukrainian and Polish politics than you are. From your comments, it appears your knowledge on the topic is superficial at best.

[iugtmkbdfil834]

Hmm, lets assume you know more than anyone on this board regarding Ukrainian and Polish politics ( you may well do that ). But this only confers knowledge upon you, but not, for lack of a better term, wisdom and understanding. I do not suggest I am a paragon of the latter ( or the former for that matter ), but I know just enough to know evasion ( 'Nobody is pretending this didn’t happen. Least of all the Ukrainians.' ), when I see one.

[throwawaytea]

I'm not assuming you are ignorant. More like wrong, or misinformed, or corrupt, or an enemy of good people, or stupid.