[hatefulheart]

Friend, you are commenting on a thread where one of the most prominent figures in tech (rightly or wrongly) is saying something did not meet expectations. As far as we can tell this is a man with every incentive to exaggerate and boost these products.

In my world, when something is expensive and doesn’t meet expectations it called a failure. Especially when something has been as hyped, scrutinized, defended and attacked as vibe coding.

Honestly, if you are the director of robotics at a firm I think it’s time you took a cold shower.

[Kudos]

Why are you assuming Zuck's expectations for progress of _his_ product have anything to do with the impact of that category of product for its users?

[hatefulheart]

I’m sorry, what’s the question? Genuinely not sure.

I’ll rephrase, Zuckerberg would certainly enjoy agentic coding to be a wild success because it means less staff and more products he could fail to create.

[Kudos]

Again, Zuck's success criteria don't necessarily align with that of others. In fact, I'd expect his success criteria are substantially different to most.

[alt227]

Making money? Seems to be the common success criteria for all.

[hlynurd]

It can both be a wild success and not what he expected.

[hatefulheart]

These two not mutually exclusive?

“Wild success” and “going slower than expected”?

Wake me up when words have a meaning again.

[ben_w]

> These two not mutually exclusive?

Correct, they are not.

Consider: Someone who "expects" their bank account to have $100M in it before they turn 30 and "only" gets it to $10M.

From the point of view of a normal sane person, they are experiencing "wild success", and yet at the same time they are definitely "going slower than [they] expected".

[Miner49er]

Pretty sure Zuck was talking about agents in general, not specifically Meta agents.

[Octoth0rpe]

More importantly, he's really probably talking about 'superintelligence', rather than just building genuinely useful and monetizable models.

[satvikpendem]

Why would Zuckerberg want to boost their AI, they have none to speak of after Llama really? Zuckerberg actually has every expectation to downplay AI so as to save face that Llama failed compared to frontier models.

[baq]

On the other side of this you have two companies growing revenue literally the fastest ever in any market segment, just for said tech. Somebody is spending this money and thinks it's worth it. Let's check back in six months.

[hatefulheart]

Sure thing, just like I’ve been checking back on people over the last 3 years. I’ll hit you up too.

[baq]

Past performance is not indicative of future results.

We're riding an exponential here for Pete's sake.

[hatefulheart]

We all know the future results of a lame horse.

[eiifr1]

Judging by his account he’s a big time booster suffering with psychosis

[baq]

not sure what this means. should I be worried?

[eiifr1]

These all sound like nice sound bites.

Until you factor in many large firms are interested in cheap Chinese models.

Are you a frontier lab booster by any chance?