[type0]

> even foreign companies competitive to key US companies.

It's unfathomable to me that EU companies don't take the risk of industrial espionage from US more seriously

[wongarsu]

Many do, when it comes to AI. Lots of restricting what the AI is allowed to see, working with local AI, trusted AI hosters, etc.

Of course those are largely the same companies that receive emails via outlook, manage company-wide SSO in Microsoft Entra, put their files in Sharepoint and track software and maintenance issues in Jira ... I'm not sure how much much info there is left that isn't already combed through by NSA and friends

[atlasunshrugged]

Not from China? One country has a recent track record of massive amounts of industrial espionage and one doesn't.

[faangguyindia]

I wonder if china killed more people in foreign land or US.

[maneesh]

Espionage is murder?

[faangguyindia]

and war?

[Foobar8568]

Well one thing is sure, before 1776, the USA didn't do any industrial espionage.

[hnfong]

There are so many Chinese open weights models that any company with resources can run them in-house (or with a trusted provider).

There might be some valid concerns about model alignment, but at least the model running in-house isn't going to conduct espionage.

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[jorvi]

This is the most hilarious, ironic thing of it all. If you want secure, high performance, you run Chinese models like DeepSeek on your own (or trusted) infra. Meanwhile you can never trust OpenAI and Anthropic's models.