[atlasunshrugged]

Not from China? One country has a recent track record of massive amounts of industrial espionage and one doesn't.

[faangguyindia]

I wonder if china killed more people in foreign land or US.

[maneesh]

Espionage is murder?

[faangguyindia]

and war?

[Foobar8568]

Well one thing is sure, before 1776, the USA didn't do any industrial espionage.

[hnfong]

There are so many Chinese open weights models that any company with resources can run them in-house (or with a trusted provider).

There might be some valid concerns about model alignment, but at least the model running in-house isn't going to conduct espionage.

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[jorvi]

This is the most hilarious, ironic thing of it all. If you want secure, high performance, you run Chinese models like DeepSeek on your own (or trusted) infra. Meanwhile you can never trust OpenAI and Anthropic's models.