[somelamer567]

The Spanish government trusting the CCP over Palantir is wild.

The CCP's intolerant, cruel and authoritarian nature is a direct threat to humanity in ways that Peter Thiel could barely imagine in his darkest dreams.

The lack of perspective on show here is astonishing. They are destroying trust with vital Western allies -- trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets -- and Lurch and his dodgy friends are clearly out of their element.

[bigyabai]

> is a direct threat to humanity in ways that Peter Thiel could barely imagine

Care to outline a few of those threats? The ones that Thiel allegedly cannot imagine?

I'm American, I get why Spain's feeling trepidation. I can't trust my own government with data if it could be used against me. I actively seek out Chinese translation, AI and search engines when I want privacy from the US. It's safer with the CCP than the geriatric nutjobs that fell off the Overton window.

[bit-anarchist]

I thinking OP is worried about China exporting its political influence outside.

In China, the Ministry for State Security has the legal authority to seize and investigate your devices without warrant nor active case, for instance. This can be, legally, motivated by dissident political thought.

[Maken]

You are mixing apples and oranges. The infamous Huawei deal was buying tons of HDD servers. Any deal with Palantir is handling all your data to the NSA.

[somelamer567]

The NSA have Congressional oversight and are held accountable for their (mis)deeds, more or less.

The Chinese MSS and the Chinese Communist Party itself aren't even accountable to God.

[Maken]

Because the NSA has such a great record of getting punished from their transgressions, right?

For foreign countries, handling your data to either the Chinese surveillance apparatus or the USA one makes no difference. In fact, any company with such deep ties with a foreign intelligence agency as Palantir should be automatically considered a security thread in other nations.

Anyway, the deal with Huawei was about buying hardware, not handling over data.

[bit-anarchist]

Congressional oversight doesn't mean much here, since the CCP also serves that role.

The real problem is that, even though US is, in practice, a de-facto two-party between democrats and republicans, the PRC is a de-facto one-party system. There's also the overall opportunities for change and revolution that US society provides, that are absent in the PRC.

[somelamer567]

De jure one-party system. No other political parties are permitted.

[bit-anarchist]

PRC does actually allow different political parties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_C...

They, however, need to be approved by the CCP, so this multi party system is only de jure.

[kome]

please, compared to thiel & co., the ccp are basically choir boys. and they worked well for china. they cleaned their cities of unbreathable air and reduced poverty in a very short time span. we cannot say the same for the americans robber barons and their political wing, like trump&co. how can you deny the most basic reality and evidence?

[somelamer567]

The people who raised concerns about the awful things the Chinese Communist Party has done in the process are unfortunately unavailable for comment.

[in_haft]

I take the ccp over thiel any day