Biden ran on a platform of Back to Normal. That’s what voters wanted after four years of crazy.
I think the zeitgeist today is different. Because Trump has dialed the crazy up to eleven in his second term and a lot of Dems are now pissed. That’s why democratic socialism/leftism is having a resurgence. And, based on what I’m seeing on the ground, there’s now a strong appetite for justice and retribution.
We're a little over 1 year in and the sudden ramp up feels absolutely nuts. In 2028 people will start to feel like it's normal. Just look at places like Russia. Everyone is used to the corruption and thinks it works well enough for them, so they fear any change will be worse. A lot of Americans have already stopped denying the corruption like they did last term, and have retreated into saying, "yeah, it's bad, but (other candidate) would be worse." Same terrifying mindset.
>> The dems need to run on fixing the economy and not retribution. They can go after him once they're in power, but don't run on it.
This isn’t going to work. Not this time. Because it’s basically classic Democratic centrism and Dem voters are fed up with it. We are already seeing evidence of this in all the special elections and primaries. By the time this November’s election is over, it will be undeniable.
Honestly, I don't know that going after them is going to work out. It turns into a media circus and the propaganda media excels as using that circus to sap support. I really think that they need to run on fixing living. Most people don't feel like they're a part of the economy. It's a "that's something rich people worry about". Simpler message will resonate deeper. We want to bring the American dream back to reality.
Focusing on real results will eventually sap away the power of the distractions.
It is guaranteed we'll quickly find ourselves back here or worse if we do anything short of imprisoning virtually all involved in the current administration, voting out most members of the House and Senate, impeaching and replacing most of the Supreme Court justices, and enacting a number of constitutional amendments to fix the cracks in the system, not to mention (and to your point) breaking up the media empires consolidated under a small handful of billionaires expressly to kowtow to the current President.
None are likely to occur.
Anyone without the appetite for such a clean-up process is OK with it starting all over again, and unfortunately, you're probably right that the majority of people will ultimately fall under this category.
> I think the zeitgeist today is different. Because Trump has dialed the crazy up to eleven in his second term and a lot of Dems are now pissed. That’s why democratic socialism/leftism is having a resurgence. And, based on what I’m seeing on the ground, there’s now a strong appetite for justice and retribution.
Does it really matter how much the minority party is pissed though? The American public knew how corrupt this guy was, shrugged, and voted him back into office.
If Democrats do win back the house and senate it will only be by the thinnest of margins. There seems to be little appetite to fix any of these structural problems outside of the "Democratic base."
the system is such that the only incentive career politicians (and we don't have other kind anymore) is the campaign. they make the same money if they lose. why would they win? its a lot more work! they just have to keep it at a minimum to be considered for next campaigns.
Yeah, for the GOP. Just listen to """centrist""" democrats for 10 minutes: these people don't care al all about winning. They don't care that a pedophile oligarch is doing irreversible damage to the union, day after day. In fact, they spend more time and energy fighting the left-wing instead of the right, because they, progressives, are an actual threat to their business model of getting paid handsomely for losing to fascists and letting them do what they want.
Oh sweet summer child. Both Republicans and Democrats won’t do anything.
Given that many of these members of congress of both parties were stock trading ahead of key legislation being announced they won’t do anything to change that.
After Biden pardoned his family members, I would be surprised if Trump didn't complete his term by pardoning his family and all those that he works with.
It is – to my knowledge – an unsettled question, technically speaking, whether a president can pardon themselves. I would be unsurprised if he tried anyway, though.
Of course, states could still pursue actions against them, but I wonder in which cases they'd have standing / clear cases to pursue.
> I would be surprised if Trump didn't complete his term by pardoning his family and all those that he works with.
As we have learned, we can ignore all of that, or they can find ways around this. The Supreme Court has made it clear the President has amazing powers.
Unfortunately, it would seem the majority of dems are just jealous that they don't have the chutzpah to be so flagrantly, blatantly corrupt, and stick to less lucrative and more established corrupt practices.
See, discussions like this go nowhere productive, but it's not because the people are incapable of productive discussion, or because the subject matter is incapable of being discussed productively. It's just that there's literally nothing productive to say about this complete and utter fuck show. We live in a world where the most accurate prediction of the world 10 years from now is current-day satire. There is nothing sensible to be said about the state of affairs of politics.