[enraged_camel]

Biden ran on a platform of Back to Normal. That’s what voters wanted after four years of crazy.

I think the zeitgeist today is different. Because Trump has dialed the crazy up to eleven in his second term and a lot of Dems are now pissed. That’s why democratic socialism/leftism is having a resurgence. And, based on what I’m seeing on the ground, there’s now a strong appetite for justice and retribution.

[kdheiwns]

We're a little over 1 year in and the sudden ramp up feels absolutely nuts. In 2028 people will start to feel like it's normal. Just look at places like Russia. Everyone is used to the corruption and thinks it works well enough for them, so they fear any change will be worse. A lot of Americans have already stopped denying the corruption like they did last term, and have retreated into saying, "yeah, it's bad, but (other candidate) would be worse." Same terrifying mindset.

[ourmandave]

Progressive resurgence is because the economy and housing is unaffordable thanks to tariffs and a pointless war.

And the president who repeatedly says he doesn't care.

The dems need to run on fixing the economy and not retribution. They can go after him once they're in power, but don't run on it.

[enraged_camel]

>> The dems need to run on fixing the economy and not retribution. They can go after him once they're in power, but don't run on it.

This isn’t going to work. Not this time. Because it’s basically classic Democratic centrism and Dem voters are fed up with it. We are already seeing evidence of this in all the special elections and primaries. By the time this November’s election is over, it will be undeniable.

[unsnap_biceps]

Honestly, I don't know that going after them is going to work out. It turns into a media circus and the propaganda media excels as using that circus to sap support. I really think that they need to run on fixing living. Most people don't feel like they're a part of the economy. It's a "that's something rich people worry about". Simpler message will resonate deeper. We want to bring the American dream back to reality.

Focusing on real results will eventually sap away the power of the distractions.

[atmavatar]

It is guaranteed we'll quickly find ourselves back here or worse if we do anything short of imprisoning virtually all involved in the current administration, voting out most members of the House and Senate, impeaching and replacing most of the Supreme Court justices, and enacting a number of constitutional amendments to fix the cracks in the system, not to mention (and to your point) breaking up the media empires consolidated under a small handful of billionaires expressly to kowtow to the current President.

None are likely to occur.

Anyone without the appetite for such a clean-up process is OK with it starting all over again, and unfortunately, you're probably right that the majority of people will ultimately fall under this category.

[dartharva]

Nothing's going to happen. Nothing ever happens.

[JeremyNT]

> I think the zeitgeist today is different. Because Trump has dialed the crazy up to eleven in his second term and a lot of Dems are now pissed. That’s why democratic socialism/leftism is having a resurgence. And, based on what I’m seeing on the ground, there’s now a strong appetite for justice and retribution.

Does it really matter how much the minority party is pissed though? The American public knew how corrupt this guy was, shrugged, and voted him back into office.

If Democrats do win back the house and senate it will only be by the thinnest of margins. There seems to be little appetite to fix any of these structural problems outside of the "Democratic base."