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by ahmedehab_01 32 days ago
Frankly, I don't see this as the concerning behaviour the article describes. It is fine to try to protect against distillation through a technique like this. This will also allow them to, instead of blocking the distillation agents, respond with a poorer result/model, hindering the progress of distillation, momentarily at least.

I would guess that's their first line of defense; they should have more techniques to identify distillation because that's a very simple way of detecting the host and can be easily spoofed.

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> This will also allow them to, instead of blocking the distillation agents, respond with a poorer result/model,

i.e. this will allow them to literally commit fraud against paying customers

1st, this technique is not fraud, and fraud is a separate accusation. 2nd, paying customers can legally and legitimately be banned and monitored for breaking terms of service, which probably includes things like using the model against U.S. export restrictions.
> 2nd, paying customers can legally and legitimately be banned and monitored for breaking terms of service

Yes, I said that. If a user is breaking your terms of service, ban them. Continuing to charge them while not providing the service they're paying for is, in fact, literal textbook fraud.

No, it's totally legal to provide degraded quality of service to those breaking your ToS.

In any case this is not what is happening, but it is legal.

Banning is completely different than charging for a service you're silently not providing.
Evidence?
So if I change my timezone to Shanghai I deserve to get banned? Or get shitty model instead of what I’m paying for?
Evidence?
Do paying customers distill? Is it fraud to protect against distillers?
That's what capitalism is all about, baby! Especially if the customers don't notice.