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by dirtbagskier 6 hours ago
I'd take them even if they didn't make me lose weight - and I'm the type of person that doesn't like takeing Tylenol unless absolutely necessary.

The best way I can describe it: my body and mind are no longer is in starvation mode. I plan, do, act and sleep well.

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>my body and mind are no longer is in starvation mode

What does it mean? If a drug reduces your desire to eat food, wouldn't it also decrease your desire to eat food beneficial for your body?

I think the effect most people want is to stop craving junk food but still eat nutritious food required for muscle growth and health.

What if you could intentionally eat good food?

I've heard it widely described as reducing mental noise around food.

If you want the real answer, people suck at shopping for groceries and don't know how or want to cook.

Long before LLMs, there was a different but similarly misguided hype around making food more convenient. Making money off ignorance is not "innovation", but we live in a world convinced by arrogant and pretentious fearmongering liars.

As always, just do it yourself. It's not that hard after all.

Do you know what food noise is?
I had the same experience, but not with GLP-1 drugs, but by upping my protein intake to about 0.7g per pound of body weight.

Night and day, stopped always being hungry... I've tried Noom before (eating highly filling, low calorie foods, but filling, not satiating), but that only worked while I was tracking (and always forcing myself to keep it up)...

Losing weight required work on top of that, but the protein just made my hunger response start working properly again.

I had a similar experience bringing down my A1C.

People talk a lot about meat, but not enough about dairy. My prayers were answered at the altars of feta, greek yogurt, half and half, butter, cottage cheese, etc. They made salads not suck. They opened up a ton of lower carb dessert options. My gut health improved. All of my health improved.

I no longer treat these humble foods as optional extras. They perfectly fill the gap in my daily protein needs. They were never unwelcome, just forgotten.

Semaglutide does an incredible job of keeping my autoimmune issues in check. The only side effect I've had is needing to drink more water or else I feel like I've got the flu. Minimal tradeoff IMO
I remember reading the Hazada paradox, where they found these Hadza tribe members who live an active life, walking miles, hunting, and doing all physical labour, have the same maintenance calories as a Western person.

So where does the energy burn in a sedentary population come from vs highly active Hadza tribe members?

Pontzer’s research showed that while the Hadza were highly active, they actually demonstrated lower baselines of certain markers of metabolic and physiological stress over time compared to Western populations.

Don't quote me on this; I am paraphrasing things I remember from.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3405064/

> Nonetheless, average daily energy expenditure of traditional Hadza foragers was no different than that of Westerners after controlling for body size. The metabolic cost of walking (kcal kg−1 m−1) and resting (kcal kg−1 s−1) were also similar among Hadza and Western groups. The similarity in metabolic rates across a broad range of cultures challenges current models of obesity suggesting that Western lifestyles lead to decreased energy expenditure.

Thirst affects me in a different way too. My throat doesn't feel dry and uncomfortable because before it reaches that point I almost get naseous.
oh say more?
This is why I took it, auto immune related ME/CFS. Works great. I still get PEM but outside of that I get to live a normal life.
Interesting! Is it possible that you're just eating less of whatever triggers the autoimmune symptoms?
No, if that’s all it was then ME/CFS would be a cake walk and it isn’t. I have such a crazy restrictive diet and have had for a long time that one of my issues was being kicked out of doctor's offices for looking too healthy. The diet is necessary but not sufficient.
This sounds concerning to me.
As a counter example, I found myself unable to eat anything at all even with anti nausea meds, and my head utterly in a fog that felt like I was becoming ill.
Did you have to reach a certain dose for such effects?
the minimum dose of monjaro (2.5mg injection once/week) can often be enough