[bko]

Im confused, are there tasks given to 6 to 13 year old to use AI?

In the classroom, are they just throwing gpt in front of them? Is that the modern equivalent of watching a vhs?

Or do they have homework to vibe code something or given some prompts to ask at home and save somewhere?

Serious question, what does this mean?

[JimsonYang]

A kid gets homework to do a writing assignment online. Kid goes on chatgpt. "Chatgpt do this work, heres the assignment' ctrl c + ctrl v Chatgpt spits out a good answer.

Kid spent no time doing homework and learned nothing

Or imagine a reading log(typing out what you read) to encourage a kid to read, you have AI that can copy and paste your homework for you

[sisve]

There where no clear rules on the matter. Now the PM has given some guidance to schools so they know when they should use it and not.

If there are no guidance teachers and schools can do what they want and some teachers would probably go to far to early

[bendriv]

I have three children in that age span in a Norwegian school. For the ages 10-13, ChatGPT and the like has frequently been used in the classroom to help with the cold start problem when doing writing assignments, and for getting feedback on written work before handing in to the teachers. Also frequently used as a brainstorming tool or for writing whole speaches or presentations that should be held in front of the class or school. As for doing homework, the school-provided and school-managed iPad has (had I should say) www.chatgpt.com whitelisted, so using these tools also for homework is at least not blocked, and sometimes encouraged.

My children has at least not yet received any tasks or homework using AI for coding. They teach less coding in school now compared to when I was at the same age, at least at my elementary school.

[vorticalbox]

Well one can no longer search for information in the big search engines without it just giving you the answer.

This ruins “search and topic and write about it”

[setopt]

I guess Norwegian schools will have to use smaller / alternative search engines now?

[pesus]

Or books.

[ransom1538]

Teacher uses AI, creates lesson plan -> AI creates assignments -> Teacher gives assignments to students -> Students use AI to do assignment -> Teacher grades with AI -> Principal uses AI to monitor teachers progress.

This is happening at schools nationwide. It is unstoppable at this point. It's a bizarre charade.

[throw101010]

You forgot the parasite companies that sit between the teachers/student/principal which pretend they detect the big bad AI assisted/generated work to punish individuals using AI (with a majority of false positives and always late by 1 generation of models). The charade wouldn't be complete without rent seeking intermediaries.

[avaer]

It speaks to the nonsensical structure of the education system, that it functions just fine having optimized out the education.

Nobody seems to care enough to do anything about it.

[bko]

This isn't about teachers using Ai to make their life easier, otherwise it wouldn't only apply to elementary school, and from what I read it applies to students.

Students likely aren't allowed to use AI anyway for assignments. Or are they? That's the question, what is actually being banned if anything

[ransom1538]

"Students likely aren't allowed to use AI anyway for assignments"

This can be reduced to "Do students have access to a phone". Good luck after 12 years of age with that. That is a tough war.

[kristianp]

The same thing is happening in business settings. There's more words being sent around than ever before, with an ever lowering percentage that is read by humans. There has to be a way to stop the madness.

[AlienRobot]

AI starts charging money -> Everybody stops using it.

[insane_dreamer]

likely preemptive