[ransom1538]

Teacher uses AI, creates lesson plan -> AI creates assignments -> Teacher gives assignments to students -> Students use AI to do assignment -> Teacher grades with AI -> Principal uses AI to monitor teachers progress.

This is happening at schools nationwide. It is unstoppable at this point. It's a bizarre charade.

[throw101010]

You forgot the parasite companies that sit between the teachers/student/principal which pretend they detect the big bad AI assisted/generated work to punish individuals using AI (with a majority of false positives and always late by 1 generation of models). The charade wouldn't be complete without rent seeking intermediaries.

[avaer]

It speaks to the nonsensical structure of the education system, that it functions just fine having optimized out the education.

Nobody seems to care enough to do anything about it.

[bobro]

> eacher uses AI, creates lesson plan -> AI creates assignments -> Teacher gives assignments to students |

Up to this point, it's actually completely fine. LLMs do an excellent job up to here.

> | Teacher grades with AI -> Principal uses AI to monitor teachers progress.

Again, this is probably mostly fine. Assuming they are taking it seriously, this is also fine.

> Students use AI to do assignment

This is singularly the section of the loop that AI has no place in. The ENTIRE point of the education system is for the students to learn how to use their brains to accomplish tasks.

[throwaway202528]

AI shouldn't really be needed for every lesson plan as:

* Lessons can have a generic core to base off, like learning objectives, content, methods, vocab, tools, experiments, etc.

* Routines are important for kids, so the same set of learning methods, activities are familiar and don't need to be taught themselves - there is no need (indeed it is detrimental) to have new activities each class.

* The teacher should know their class better than AI for customisation (for now, until every student gets monitored for everything); a lot of customisation from systematic marking, etc, can exist without AI and simply by being planned and using deterministic tools.

AI can spice things up, for sure. But using AI systematically for lesson planning suggests -

A. The teacher doesn't have access to what should be a solved problem: tens of thousands of teachers repeating the same lesson plan from scratch - even with AI - across the country is not efficient.

B. The teacher doens't have planning time or skills in order to implement a systematic course plan, formative assessment and on-going improvement system.

Using AI to rush or bootstrap A or B suggests their problem is systematic and that AI will not solve this. In programming lingo, AI use hides further accumulation of technical debt.

[bko]

This isn't about teachers using Ai to make their life easier, otherwise it wouldn't only apply to elementary school, and from what I read it applies to students.

Students likely aren't allowed to use AI anyway for assignments. Or are they? That's the question, what is actually being banned if anything

[ransom1538]

"Students likely aren't allowed to use AI anyway for assignments"

This can be reduced to "Do students have access to a phone". Good luck after 12 years of age with that. That is a tough war.

[kristianp]

The same thing is happening in business settings. There's more words being sent around than ever before, with an ever lowering percentage that is read by humans. There has to be a way to stop the madness.

[AlienRobot]

AI starts charging money -> Everybody stops using it.

[d3Xt3r]

Nah, they're always going to have a free tier, that's how they get you hooked to their service. It might be even ad-supported in the future (watch an ad to earn credits, or by inserting sponsored content in the responses).

[throwaway2037]

Plus the free tier gives them loads of new training data. I do agree we will see two types of adverts soon: Traditional and submarine (paid-placement).