[Ucalegon]

Do you know what an enterprise is?

Are you an enterprise?

Do you know what enterprise pricing is for these models and the associated legalese around the models?

Is your experience the same as an enterprise?

How can anyone take what you, as a person, be the same as a business, both for pricing or compliance or governance or anything else?

And why should we trust you for if we are a business who might want to do any business with Anthropic?

[simonw]

Anthropic's enterprise pricing has been thoroughly covered over the last few weeks. I've talked to plenty of people who are paying those prices.

You can chose to trust me or not based on my track record.

From your posting history it looks like you have a whole lot more relevant experience with enterprise software deals than I do. Have you learned anything interesting about how Anthropic pricing works?

[Ucalegon]

Simon can you show that? Like, do you have proof?

>You can chose to trust me or not based on my track record.

Mind you, when people challenge you here, you ask for the same thing, like you ask them for public proof.

Why do you have a different standard when its asked of you? If you have asked for others for proof, provide it.

You have made the claim, support it.

[lunchbucket]

They told you what they know. Maybe there's enterprise contracts with different prices, maybe there aren't - but evidently this person either isn't aware or can't disclose what they know, and it seems like it's the first one, so what do you want from them?

[simonw]

Which claim are you talking about here?

[Ucalegon]

Which claim is Simon talking about? And how does that validate what Simon is talking about?

Like we can talk about thing as they are, given the incentive structures that may or may not exist, but lets not like all of this is abstract or impartial.

You are not not someone who is commenting from a source of objective truth. Nor are you looking at every contract that is singed and has some type of insight.

Regardless of if you are being paid or not, you have a bias. And that bias isn't called out nor is it something that you deal with as to the results that you see.

Or you do...

Just be honest.

[simonw]

I have genuinely no idea what you are talking about at this point.

I said that my session would cost $12.11 at standard Anthropic prices, based on using AgentsView to calculate cost against tokens used. I further asserted that Anthropic charge enterprise customers those rates.

You kicked off a lengthy thread which I tried to follow but eventually lost track of the point you were making and/or the questions you were asking.

And now you're talking about bias and I don't know where that came from either.

[Ucalegon]

Can you prove that a single contract is paid via that rate?

Like, the token rate assumes the rate that you assert and not whats actually paid.

Do you have proof that your rate is the same from anyone else?

Your bias is that there is no idea of enterprise pricing, that you, Simon Wilson is the experience that anyone experiences, and what that is, that your experience is anything that should be validated.

[solenoid0937]

What a bizarre comment. simonw is well known and widely respected.

[Ucalegon]

To you, if you have specific issues with what I said, I would love to address them, rather than assuming that Simon is always right. Cause let me tell you...

[solenoid0937]

You're being bizarrely conspiratorial and litigious. Simonw explained very clearly how pricing works, and you can learn this for yourself as well.

[Ucalegon]

That should be a pricing model that we all have access to. You are more than able to provide that pricing model.

Being litigious, assumes that I have taken legal action, which I have not, so be better with your words.

[solenoid0937]

There is a pricing model everyone has access to, it's the API pricing model, and it's what simonw quoted. How hard is that to understand?

[Ucalegon]

That is not how enterprise pricing works. Not everything gets the same API model, because not everyone has the same unit economics. But lets make the sane underlying assumptions, does your business work?