[Ucalegon]

Can you prove that a single contract is paid via that rate?

Like, the token rate assumes the rate that you assert and not whats actually paid.

Do you have proof that your rate is the same from anyone else?

Your bias is that there is no idea of enterprise pricing, that you, Simon Wilson is the experience that anyone experiences, and what that is, that your experience is anything that should be validated.

[simonw]

Are you worried that the price for enterprises would be higher or lower than the $12.11 I quoted?

I'll grant that it could be lower if enterprises negotiate bulk discounts, though the stories I've seen suggest that's not happening, for example this one: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/anthropic-changes-pr...

I think higher prices are very unlikely. Do you think I'm wrong about that?

There are a couple of documented ways you could pay more. Anthropic charge 10% extra for "US-only inference" https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing#dat... - and you can also pay more for "fast mode", though I don't see a quoted price for Fable for that yet (just prices for Opus): https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing#fas...

[Ucalegon]

>I think higher prices are very unlikely. Do you think I'm wrong about that?

Yes, I don't think you are objective, nor do I think you care about objectivity, you care about what confirms your prirors and you have issues dealing with anything past that.

Because, frankly, you do not have the ability to assess anything associated with AI. You are biased towards... and you manufactur.... but past that cool, we disagree. But 100% of who you are is supporting Anthroptic and you cannot take all of your effort to tell people why that might be wrong because...

[simonw]

I don't understand what you mean by "objective" here.

You're welcome to believe that the pricing I quoted is low and enterprise companies pay more than that, despite the abundant evidence I've provided in this thread.

It sounds to me like you think I'm biased towards Anthropic, despite me highlighting how their model charged $12 for a two line CSS change due to it being "relentlessly proactive".

(I also called their behavior "egregious" just yesterday: https://twitter.com/simonw/status/2064936762099789960)

[Ucalegon]

A better way of putting this is that you do not actually understand or care about the risks of the technologies you are pushing.

We can look at what a ZDR means, or we can look at what a ZDR does not mean, which is like all files and what that means for... do you actually care?

As a human being, do you, Simon Wilson, give a shit about another human being besides yourself?

Do you have any thing that matters besides something that rides a bike?

Or is your excuse that technology is going to technology.

Then some of us are going to call you out for being complicit. You can be mad about your complicity, doesn't change your complicity.

[Ucalegon]

What you are saying is bullshit and what you are saying when it comes to the unit cost per token is based off of pro-athropic or OAI.

Nothing you are saying, outside of what you are doing for OAI or Anthropic is true or trustworthy.

You, as a human being, are a propagandist for AI.

Do you question for what I think about you or the objectivity, or lack there of, for you are, your pelican riding a bicycle, and what that means for every one else besides you?

Also, when it comes to tokens, who's tokens? You tokens, you paying for that shit?

Is it worth it?

[peteforde]

You sound very much like you need a long walk and/or a long hug.

Please go touch some grass.

[Ucalegon]

Just did so, lets see what you did to touch grass.