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by necovek 13 days ago
Very simplistic look, IMO. I'll add another one mostly as a counterpoint (not that I believe it is strictly true, but largely yes!).

Python is a lot more expressive than other languages and has a very terse syntax, and thus requires LLM to output much fewer tokens to achieve the same job compared to other languages.

Adding a few more tests to ensure data conformity on top of what you have to do anyway with a statically typed language still results in fewer tokens overall.

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The expressiveness of a language and whether it does static/dynamic type checking are orthogonal. Type inference and generics are a thing in most modern languages. I also think you're underestimating the amount of code you need to guarantee that there are no type errors in your Python code.
You were talking about token economics: expressiveness surely matters there?
Does it have a terse syntax? I main F#, and when I have to work with Python I generally find myself complaining about how verbose it is. (Needing intermediate variables for what should have been a pipeline, the ceremony around parallelism, having to store constructor parameters as object fields, etc.)
It sure does in comparison with most mainstream statically typed languages — if you feel that way about Python, I wonder what you say about Java, C++ or even Rust or Go?

Checking some examples at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fsharp/tour, I'd say it's quite similar in verbosity — eg. no need to declare a module in Python since the code already lives in a file that is the module (plus one less indentation level for module level functions); inline function declaration and calling is thereabouts with F# slightly more terse (let vs lambda + spaces vs parenthesis); if-then more verbose in F# (no then in Python, just "if x:"); F# does not seem to need "return"...

In many cases you can avoid intermediate varibles: inline ifs, list comprehensions, lambdas, etc... Constructor arguments are a good point, but this is mostly about idiomatic use instead of language itself: you can simply do

  def __init__(self, **kwargs):
      self.args = kwargs
I'll give you one on the ceremony around concurrency, though! I have different ideas of how it should have been done to shift the cost to the language runtime instead of the developer, but alas... :)