[pgwhalen]

It’s worrisome, but it’s also worth pointing out that no one else has succeeded at it, or even gotten close. It’s easy to forget that there are not good well-integrated person AI solutions yet, it’s just chat bots. I think it’s just harder than a lot of people think it is.

[artursapek]

I think it's fair to say that OpenAI has at least partially won the "consumer AI" segment.

[s3p]

Yeah but OpenAI isn't building phones. The real winning would be Google's deep integration of Gemini into all of their products.

Also, even when you DO get AI into products, consumers might not like them. The overuse of copilot led to a barrage of Microslop jokes, for example

[artursapek]

I would expect Apple to hedge their bet on Gemini and build everything so that the model can be swapped out in the future.

[merlindru]

absolutely agree.

but Apple isn't known to make grand promises and then not keep them, is it..? usually they just deliver what they say they will

yet i've been reading about "well they promised AI Siri two years ago and Siri still can't set an alarm right" in every thread even remotely related to the topic

i don't remember reading this much about anything else. it seems to have soured people quite a bit, at least in my internet bubble