[stale2002]

> they will not be able to sustain themselves

A nuclear armed country wouldn't go down without a fight.

I'm also not sure who is even left to do anything about Israel. The entirety of Gaza is rubble and southern Lebanon is soon to follow. And Iran can't destroy Israel with its dwindling missile stocks, they'd need a ground army for that.

But if it actually came down to it, they would kill every last one of their enemies if their existence was actually threatened.

Given that fact, anyone who's wants it to be destroyed must have a seething deep hatred for the Palestinians and all the rest of the arabs that would die in the process.

I don't think most people out there hate the Palestinians so much that they would want to see them all die in nuclear hellfire, no.

But hey, maybe you know more people than I do that wouldn't care about the millions of Arabs that would die in the inevitable nuclear war.

[za3faran]

Yes we know about what they call the "Samson option". The west supported and allowed an extremely brutal, unhinged colonizer do whatever it wanted right after WW2 and now everyone has to pay the price. If they use it, the entire world will suffer, not just the neighboring region. This is yet another reason why they must be quickly stopped.

We of course care about human life (unlike the occupation). I don't know what will happen. The Assad regime fell in a 10 day period after a decade+ worth of war and conflict. Things may not need to escalate to a full blown ground war, we already hear about of a lot of internal rift among the occupation. They lost 100k+ individuals who left and never came back since 2020 or so. Unlike what the occupation likes to make up, the Palestinians (and Muslims in general) do not have an issue with cohabitating with jews[1]. Many of isarelis are atheist/secular anyway, so their so called claim to the land based on that argument is non-existent, and they would probably be the first to migrate out as we see happening slowly.

[1] https://x.com/incontextmedia/status/1720877046664986750

[stale2002]

> This is yet another reason why they must be quickly stopped.

Nuclear weapons are meant to stop countries from being destroyed, for every country that has thems.

Thats why countries get those nuclear weapons in the first place. To use in a last resort in case they are destroyed. They even have fancy words for it, like "mutually assured destruction".

I doubt you have invented a nuke shield. Meaning that, for all countries that have nuclear weapons, destroying them is a very bad idea.

> We of course care about human life

If you are talking so cavalierly about destroying a country that has nuclear weapons, it would not seem like you care much about the arab lives that live there. It seems like you would rather the arabs throw there lives away, for nothing, for decades to come. All for some silly obsession with destroying a nuclear armed country, no matter how many women and children have to die along to way to fail to do much of anything against them.

Just look around you dude. Gaza is entirely rubble. Most of Israel's enemies are in shambles, and former enemies of Israel from decades past have strong alliances with Israel now.

The axis of resistance failed. And coping about it will just get more arabs killed for nothing. Most people don't want to throw their lives away for nothing. They want to move on and have peace. And it is rich to see foreigners so giddy about the idea of more dead arabs sacrificing themselves for the cause.

But hey, its not like it really matters much anymore. I expect that Israel's enemies and Gaza's fate is sealed at this point, and when immigration opens up in a couple years 1/3rd to half of the population there will resettle outside of palestine. Its sad, but hey, most people there don't want to live in tents forever.

> The Assad regime fell

They didn't have nuclear weapons. And if they did, most people who aren't stupid would be hesitant about trying to destroy them.

> the Palestinians (and Muslims in general) do not have an issue with cohabitating with jews

Then the solution is simple. Give up on the idea of trying to destroy a nuclear armed country. Easy right? Just accept peace instead of risking the lives of all the arabs in the region for a doomed goal that only will kill many many many more arabs if it ever came anyone close to being enacted.

[za3faran]

Politics shift extremely quickly, and it's very well known that only a handful of people in power support the zionist entity. There are no real alliances with israel from Muslim nations if that's what you are alluding to. Maybe one or two rulers are attempting to form some sort of deal, but this does not sit well with the population at all. Remember that you have ~2 billion Muslims, and the Palestinian issue is one of the most important, if not the most important issue for all of them.

WW2 left a lot of destruction, yet things got rebuilt and the world moved on. The mongols left a trail of destruction and atrocities, but the victims recovered. What's happening today is no different. This is not to make light of the suffering of the victims of the zionists, but it means that they will not give up.

This is not an Arab issue, it's a Muslim issue. The zionists are trying to make it a racial issue (as a form of projection), but it's far from it.

> They didn't have nuclear weapons.

They had chemical weapons that they used on civilians.

What these latest conflicts have shown is how weak and frail the occupation is, it has always been the case. The internal rift going on there may very well expand to a civil war. There are many ways out of this instead of brute military force that eliminates everyone.

Iran is still standing, and the war that now the whole world knows israel is behind, has made so many people stand up against them. We are seeing people convert to Islam from all different racial and religious backgrounds. Injustice will not last forever. There are even American politicians making it clear they do not receive funding from AIPAC when they run. Give it a generation or two, their public perception is down the drain, and they know this all too well, and they're panicking.

> Then the solution is simple. Give up on the idea of trying to destroy a nuclear armed country. Just accept peace instead

We have no issues with peace. Give back the land to its native people, and they will decide who stays and who leaves. The western nations that enabled this genocide and colonialist project can take in those who leave.

[stale2002]

> The western nations that enabled this genocide and colonialist project can take in those who leave.

The much much more likely situation is that a third of gazans leave based on plans that western governments have made for gaza that are already public.

Thats the outcome that those groups are currently on a clear trajectory towards, that might not even be stoppable at this point, TBH.

Then what? More yelling online about "zionists" doesn't rebuild the mass rubble that gaza has already been turned into.

But hey, feel free to check up on gaza in a year and see if things have gotten any better, or if it has instead just been more people sacrificing their lives for nothing with no progress towards a better future.

[bigyabai]

> Then what?

Decades of unjustifiable regional conflict used to manufacture consent for Israel to invade and indefinitely occupy portions of Syria, Jordan and Egypt?

Because that's the precedent that Israel has set for themselves. It's not a very popular plan outside of the Knesset, as this war has proven.

[stale2002]

There are not large 40 thousand plus armed terrorists groups that have been being armed for decades and have been shooting rockets at Israel for years in either Jordan or Egypt. And Syria has significantly improved their relations with Israel recently.

Nobody in those countries are seriously suggesting that there is going to be some war with Israel anytime soon, and relations are as good as they have ever been.

[za3faran]

The yelling is not only happening online, we're starting to see a shift in policy. As I mentioned, the sentiment for the zionist entity in the USA is in the dirt among the younger generation. This isn't just about Gaza, it's about the entire world now. The entity has no issues literally dragging the world in to WW3. People are waking up.