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by stale2002 13 days ago
> The western nations that enabled this genocide and colonialist project can take in those who leave.

The much much more likely situation is that a third of gazans leave based on plans that western governments have made for gaza that are already public.

Thats the outcome that those groups are currently on a clear trajectory towards, that might not even be stoppable at this point, TBH.

Then what? More yelling online about "zionists" doesn't rebuild the mass rubble that gaza has already been turned into.

But hey, feel free to check up on gaza in a year and see if things have gotten any better, or if it has instead just been more people sacrificing their lives for nothing with no progress towards a better future.
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bigyabai 13 days ago
> Then what?

Decades of unjustifiable regional conflict used to manufacture consent for Israel to invade and indefinitely occupy portions of Syria, Jordan and Egypt?

Because that's the precedent that Israel has set for themselves. It's not a very popular plan outside of the Knesset, as this war has proven.

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stale2002 13 days ago
There are not large 40 thousand plus armed terrorists groups that have been being armed for decades and have been shooting rockets at Israel for years in either Jordan or Egypt. And Syria has significantly improved their relations with Israel recently.

Nobody in those countries are seriously suggesting that there is going to be some war with Israel anytime soon, and relations are as good as they have ever been.

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bigyabai 12 days ago
Nobody in those countries believes that Israel is fighting a defensive war. They refuse to assist Israel until the US steps in, and even then they draw pretty hard lines in the sand. Jordan doesn't trust Israeli administration of the West Bank; Syria wants the Golan Heights to stop expanding into Al-Quneitra, and resents the Druze separatism that Likud supports.

Every politician in these countries are preparing for a long-term campaign of Israeli interference, subterfuge and misinformation. Even the US is preparing for Israel's forever war.

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za3faran 12 days ago
Those "terrorists" only arose after the zionist occupation. To everyone else other than the zionist occupiers, they are freedom fighters.
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stale2002 12 days ago
They are actually designated as a terrorist organization by a very large number of countries. Almost every country in that region does, and around the world.

Also, they do all sorts of things. The big one was contributing to the deaths many people in syria. I think thats more than enough for countries to call them a terrorist organization as they do now.

Its pretty horrible. You can look it up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_involvement_in_the_S...

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za3faran 11 days ago
Most, if not all those countries are western, who are enabling the genocide in Palestine. Let's not pretend they have any moral ground to stand on.

I'm not defending what Hezb did in Syria, but let's not forget that they emerged as a reaction to the zionist occupation. It would be nice to see some consistency, the zionist occupation has orders of magnitude worse crimes for almost 80 years now, yet they are endorsed by the west and funded to continue their atrocities.

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za3faran 13 days ago
The yelling is not only happening online, we're starting to see a shift in policy. As I mentioned, the sentiment for the zionist entity in the USA is in the dirt among the younger generation. This isn't just about Gaza, it's about the entire world now. The entity has no issues literally dragging the world in to WW3. People are waking up.
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