[gitaarik]

You gave the argument that Grok isn't trustable because of their nazi fails.

My argument was that you're maybe a bit biased, because similar issues have happened with other prominent companies.

Both companies corrected themselves on the issues.

I don't think your argument has much ground right now. Grok might be leaning into a certain direction, but you can say that about any AI or news station.

[cherry_tree]

@dang can you explain how the comment below me got marked dead? How many flags did it receive? By whom? This is genuinely very concerning, this comment is not off topic or in anyway deserving to be flagged. Do you or the other moderator disagree with that statement?

Here is the text of the comment in question:

“As someone stumbling across this thread: the idea that, in regards to bias, a real person might actually consider these two events in any way comparable is honestly leaving me stunned. I can't find the right words to describe how sickening it is to see Nazism being treated as just as banally acceptable as any other political direction.”

[dang]

Moderation on HN doesn't have to do with whether we agree or disagree with a post. If it did, most of the posts here would be dead.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48451979 was classified by our software as genai. That's not allowed on HN - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079.

All such classifiers are imperfect, of course, but we have no choice but to use them because HN is being inundated with content that has been either generated or edited by LLMs, and the community feels strongly about this.

I've unkilled the comment now, although its information/indignation ratio is low enough that I would not call it a good comment for HN, and no, that doesn't mean I disagree with it.

While I have you: can you also please stop breaking the site guidelines, such as by posting flamebait, snark, and using HN for ideological battle? You've been doing this repeatedly, (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48433250, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48420491 in this thread, as well as crossing into personal attack elsewhere).

We're trying for something different here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

[cherry_tree]

I wasn’t asking if you agreed with the comment in question but in my statement that there is no obvious reason in the content that it should be flagged; it seems you did agree since you restored the comment. Thanks for your feedback and attention.

[dang]

Ahh I see that now. Perils of reading hastily!

[Timon3]

As someone stumbling across this thread: the idea that, in regards to bias, a real person might actually consider these two events in any way comparable is honestly leaving me stunned. I can't find the right words to describe how sickening it is to see Nazism being treated as just as banally acceptable as any other political direction.

[gitaarik]

You're misreading. Nazism isn't being treated as acceptable, neither is wokeism. Both companies have apologized for these incidents, and have addressed the problems.

[Timon3]

No, I'm understanding you perfectly well.

[Lerc]

You understand their point of view and are just rejecting it?

And commenting to express disagreement but not bothering to say why?

I don't quite understand what's going on here?

[gitaarik]

You said Nazism is being accepted like other political movements. But nobody (in this thread) ever said something like that.

[cherry_tree]

From my and seemingly others’ reading, you have equated Nazi and woke very directly in your comments. Do you feel you have you not?

[gitaarik]

I haven't equated them, I've used them as examples of opposite extremes.

I think Nazism is extreme right, and wokeism is extreme left. It's both out of balance. And Google and xAI both acknowledged that, and addressed the problems.