[graemep]

Non-crime hate incidents 1) never lead to people being charged, and 2) recording of them has been greatly reformed following a court ruling and new legislation

I agree there are a lot of problems (e.g. the online safety Act) but it look as though both the rest of Europe and the rest of the west is going the same way.

I also assume this incident was not in the UK as the details were shared on imgur which blocks the UK. The authorities also do not seem to have taken any action. Anyone can report anything they want.

[robk]

Yep but they live with you for life on a DBS check, and you know that we brought up in a court of law if anything else happens to be against your favor

[graemep]

1. That is one reason why the rules were changed to reduce the level of recoding

2. It would only be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check, not basic or standard. This also applies to all other information the police have on you, not just NCHIs. This is just like the rules for disclosing something like a caution issued to someone in your household, an aquittal, allegations made against you, parking and speeding tickets etc.

"Non-crime information can be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check – which is limited to high-risk positions like teachers and carers – but only with the approval of a chief officer. The chief officer must have regard to statutory guidance issued by the Home Office and consider whether the applicant should be allowed to make representations before any information is disclosed."

https://www.college.police.uk/article/protecting-freedom-exp...

It is illegal to request a higher level of check than the guidance allows for a particular role.

[avereveard]

The right level of recording of non crime is zero wdym reduced?

[trumpdong]

If they're turning over all information the police have it makes sense this gets turned over... Or do you want the police to not have any record they spoke to you, so they'll come tomorrow and say the same thing again, and again, and again?

[avereveard]

Metadata does not require data and conflating them doesn't help your point

[graemep]

So what metadata would be appropriate? Just an incident regarding this person was reported? For a hate incident regarding this person was reported? That could easily make things worse as the risk is that people looking at the check would assume the worst.

[trumpdong]

who the hell is this cindyllm user that keeps replying to my posts with really dumb stuff?

[graemep]

I did not say its the right level. All my comments in this thread have been stating facts, not opinions (not that that stopped downvotes).

By reduced I mean a stricter code of practice that requires a good reason for doing it.: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/non-crime-hate-in...

Example H above is in my view a good example of something should be recorded. A single incident is not a crime, but repeating that conduct could constitute a criminal harassment.

[lII1lIlI11ll]

No, the "rest of Europe" is not going the way of outlawing e2e encrypted iCloud backups and other bullshit your shitty government is pulling on you, stop deluding yourself.