[millerm]

I can deal with a launch problem. I am looking forward to being able to check it out. I stopped coming to HN as often as I used to because there has been too much AI talk. It's like a dang AI subreddit. I don't want anything to do with AI. I have lost 2 jobs to AI budgets and stupid executive decisions. It's no longer part of my personal and professional life.

I hope it works out.

[andrewjf]

I agree with you, but haven't really left yet since there's still a good amount of discourse outside AI related topics. Seems a significant amount of contributors here are all to eager to fall over themselves putting themselves, their juniors, children, and colleagues out of work, long term.

[freetime2]

My personal stance is that the genie is out of the bottle, and there's likely no putting it back. Kind of like nuclear weapons: I wish they didn't exist, but since they do I'd rather be on the side that has them.

Honestly it's an incredible technology the likes of which I never thought I would see in my lifetime. It's definitely not perfect, but it is improving at a frightening pace. Some days I am optimistic for how it might shape the future, and other days I am scared.

If goverments wanted to make a credible effort to limit how they are used, I would support that. But I'm not terribly optimistic that can or will happen.

[stodor89]

> Kind of like nuclear weapons

True, but you're not being bombarded 24/7 with irrelevant -- and most likely false -- information about nuclear weapons.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

How a post about "Hacker News, Sans AI" became about .... AI !

[classified]

Distinction is perfect continence.

[archagon]

TBH, I'm mostly here out of spite at this point. It's unhealthy but I can't seem to stop rage-reading.

[dijksterhuis]

urgh, i'm with you on this. i need to stop, but i can't for some reason.

[block_dagger]

Would love to hear more detail about the job losses you mentioned, if you are willing to share.

[chilipepperhott]

I've addressed the issues. It should be usable now. I apologize to everyone who encountered an error page. Have a good weekend, everyone!

[johnea]

Can you post the entries to a Libera IRC channel?

[johnfn]

It’s interesting how, as someone more pro-AI, I feel the exact opposite way - every comment thread just devolves into people saying AI is stupid (OK, perhaps modulo new model releases from frontier labs, those tend to be fairly positive). Like we had a thread about what your AI workflow is and people were coming in and saying they didn’t have one because AI is bad. Really? Do these people enter threads about what your favorite Rust library is and say they don’t have any and Rust is a bad language?

[bigstrat2003]

Sure, but not to the same extent. Because the industry isn't experiencing a trend where it tells everyone that if they don't use Rust, they are obsolete. And because nobody is saying "Rust is going to take all our jobs" to all the other programmers. And because most of the threads on HN aren't about Rust on a daily basis.

Sure overly enthusiastic Rust fans exist and they are annoying. But it's nowhere even close to the AI mania gripping the industry.

[johnfn]

Just because some people are contributing to bad discourse doesn't mean that you also get permission to contribute to bad discourse. If you don't like it when people say you're going to be obsolete -- tell them! Don't hop into random spaces where no one is saying that and act negative! This just lowers the discourse quality everywhere. Very few people on HN are saying you are going to be obsolete if you don't use AI (I basically haven't seen a single person say this who hasn't been massively downvoted).

[krapp]

> Do these people enter threads about what your favorite Rust library is and say they don’t have any and Rust is a bad language?

Yes. And Rust people enter threads about other languages and projects not written in Rust and say they're bad because they aren't Rust. Welcome to Hacker News.

[johnfn]

If you can find me even a single example of this I’d love to see it.

[badc0ffee]

The rsync thread has the requisite comment saying a Rust rewrite would fix everything.

[picofarad]

I really miss n-gate