[protocolture]

Yeah I was an X1 Carbon True Believer for a while but I cant justify their current prices.

It used to be 1200 bucks or so cheaper than the equivalent macbook (probably saying as much will piss off the "Thinkpads were never cheap weridos but thats fine)

[noir_lord]

There was a time the T series where the go-to if you wanted a good Linux laptop as well.

I'm typing this on an old T470P (7700HQ/32GB/2560x1440) that is running my TV - it's uptime is measured in months (usually for a kernel upgrade).

Just a stellar machine but the new ones don't seem to be worth the price.

It is somewhat remarkable that no one has managed to get close to Apple quality by now.

I think the major manufacturers just have too many SKU's with too much differentiation instead of focussing on making 4-5 good SKU's.

[cozzyd]

I'm happy with my P14s (AMD, Gen6) (running Linux, obviously). Fortunately I got it last fall with 64 GB of RAM before that was exorbitantly expensive...

[protocolture]

I think they can get to apple on quality or price but not both anymore.

And its not Wintel holding them back, Lenovo has their ARM experiment too, and its a bit average.