[noir_lord]

There was a time the T series where the go-to if you wanted a good Linux laptop as well.

I'm typing this on an old T470P (7700HQ/32GB/2560x1440) that is running my TV - it's uptime is measured in months (usually for a kernel upgrade).

Just a stellar machine but the new ones don't seem to be worth the price.

It is somewhat remarkable that no one has managed to get close to Apple quality by now.

I think the major manufacturers just have too many SKU's with too much differentiation instead of focussing on making 4-5 good SKU's.

[cozzyd]

I'm happy with my P14s (AMD, Gen6) (running Linux, obviously). Fortunately I got it last fall with 64 GB of RAM before that was exorbitantly expensive...

[protocolture]

I think they can get to apple on quality or price but not both anymore.

And its not Wintel holding them back, Lenovo has their ARM experiment too, and its a bit average.