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by fzeroracer 18 days ago
> If anything AI will be used to correct all the crappy human made code that is still being pushed due to the vanity of coders still pretending that they are better than AI at coding.

What funny nonsense. This is like saying AI will replace artists because it's better than your average artist.

Software engineering is as much an artform as it is infrastructure. AI cannot approximate even a poor engineer because it cannot capture the full context of a problem to be solved.
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atleastoptimal 18 days ago
There is an artistic element to coding but claiming it is some sort of unquantifiable abstract mystical thing is silly. There are many metrics, objective and easily measured, that AI can match humans on in code generation.
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fzeroracer 18 days ago
None of those 'objective' metrics matter as long as the outcomes is incredibly visible and damaging. You say that AI is matching humans, but what people see is apps getting worse with more bugs than ever, an inability to reach anyone that actually gives a shit and second order effects on things like general computing.

It doesn't help that most of these 'metrics' are literally invented by and ran by the companies that benefit the most from said metrics. I've seen this shit at major companies before, because the c-suite loves to invent metrics that make their product look good even if it ignores reality.

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atleastoptimal 18 days ago
The median != the frontier. When looking at all the crappy vibe coded apps and saying they’re worse than the normal expectations of pre-AI applications, you’re comparing some default app-generator model (Gemini flash or worse) with the security integrity of enterprise apps (which still have security flaws). This is very different from comparing Opus 4.8 to the median coder, given the same context, parameters, access to tools, time, and feedback loops.
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fzeroracer 18 days ago
The frontier has been on the horizon for the past 5 years, where people say it's going to replace all engineers and we'll be in some sort of software heaven. Until when and IF we reach that point, the only thing that matters are the negative outcomes we currently experience as a result.
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