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by hdgvhicv 24 days ago
They voted for this. In larger numbers than in 2020 and 2016.
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May I propose an alternative for our politicians? Rather that saying “you better take your medicine like a grown up and be responsible and vote for our side” try being _actually compelling_ for a change.

That’s it. Just offer the people what they want and stop catering to the ownership class.

You mean American voters have a clientele mentality.

Let me remind you any of you could run for a seat. You don't need to belong to any political party. You can even rise through the ranks inside a party. Trump is even an example of a complete outsider turning upside-down one of the two main parties!

Your complaint sounds a lot like "we tried nothing and we ran all out of ideas".

that is what i’m accusing the dems of.

just as well you can say the wealthy people our government caters to also have a clientele mentality. and they get most of what they want.

populists are running for more seats these days and they’re winning so maybe there’s hope.

non voters were the largest bloc and its understandable since lawmakers are largely unresponsive to their material needs. (bigger military budget every year, no universal healthcare plan, etc)
What is this "this" you're referring to? Was this on the ballot? Did Trump announce that he would do this?

It seems very easy to just blame this on the voter like this.

This = this person is clearly morally corrupt, displaying a pattern of behaviour over decades of being untrustworthy, a liar, and taking advantage for personal gains.

People decided to elect that person, it's part of the package.

I'm Canadian and I can tell you this was always part of Project 2025, which was extremely obviously the plan all along.

So I don't know. Assuming the American voter can read and and access to the internet, it's kind of pathetic to imply they couldn't have known

people in america have low political involvement after years of politicians ignoring their material needs. non-voters are the biggest group of voters. i think it’s by design.
64% us turnout. Canada 68%, UK 60%

America is not exceptional.

Jan 6th 2021 was on the ballot. You vote for Trump, or said “they’re as bad as each other”, you reap what you sow.
The contents of Project 2025 were well publicised, so yes, the voters are very much to blame (assuming that the vote wasn't gamed by Musk et al)
I mean, Trump was all but outright saying "I am going to be comically terrible"; the people voting for him presumably knew at least the broad strokes of what they'd be getting, if not the fine detail.