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by dec0dedab0de 20 days ago
Look at the best pizza place in the world, the best burger maker in the world.. they are not in Italy or America, but in Tokyo.

That's a bold claim. While I'm sure the average quality in Japan is significantly better than ours, I would put the best pizza places in Jersey, NYC, and CT up against anywhere in the world.

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It’s all kinda silly because there’s a “quantity is quality” thing going on with pizza and a lot of “commoner food”.

But Tokyo has a loooooooot of good food from various places, and a lot of people with money willing to spend 5 bucks a slice (for example). Or at least enough to sustain one restaurant.

The contrapositive: what magical thing exists in Jersey that would not be exportable to Tokyo?

I would bet that NYC has the best cheap slice tho.

I bet that NYC has the most variety in the world and therefore more likely that something is the most optimal across various scales of measurement
Napoli doesn’t get any consideration?
I'm gonna be honest at tremendous personal expense:

I just don't think Italy _gets_ pizza the way America does.

Napoli: simplest possible ingredients, locally grown, from that amazing volcanic soil, for dirt cheap prices. It’s all about the Marinara and the Margherita.

In America it’s generally lots of ingredients piled on, with prices spiraling out of control.

Anecdote: on a recent trip to Nee York City I was momentarily excited to read about a place making Napoli style pizzas. Then I saw a pie was close to $40. In Napoli that was about €6.

However, when I only had a few minutes before a show I dove into the closest pizza place and got a giant NYC style slice for a little over $5. It was the best meal I had during that trip.

So I think the moral of the story is that the best pizza is the one from the shop closest to you done in the style that city is known for. At least if you’re in NYC or Napoli.

As a new yorker who loves pizza and could talk about it for hours, the median pizza place in naples is way better than the median pizza place in new york. :P

"Italy" as a whole, I make no claims on.