[JeremieDecoop]

It's the most dumb article I have ever seen on Hackernews with respect to the writer who has knowledge about protocols and concepts.

No TCP/IP means no normal internet routing. → You would need a totally new way for machines to find and send data to each other.

Bots are not tied to HTTP/HTML forever, people can write new bots for the new protocol, including by the use of GUI automation (digital or with plotters that mimic human actions (instagam farm bots))

[dang]

> It's the most dumb article I have ever seen on Hackernews

Can you please not do this in comments? It is very demoralizing to post something and be met with this kind of reaction, which will hit the other person 100x harder than I'm sure you intended. You can make your substantive points without that.

[mrmarket]

Thanks for sticking up for me, lol. It's ok though. He's partly right in that I was in a rash burn-it-all down mood at the time of this post. Suggesting we start from scratch re: create an entirely new way to transfer information between machines was obviously pretty hyperbolic and over the top. I had just seen one too many AI-generated posts on bearblog and wanted to do the equivalent of go off-grid and hope there was some organic beauty to be found there before the parking lots inevitably appeared.

Anyway, let this be a lesson to me. Next time I post to HN, I should count to 10 and look at my rant with more rational eyes. No harm done.

[outside1234]

At least he got the premise right, if not the implementation. That is better than 50% of articles. :)

[PaulDavisThe1st]

The premise being that the root cause of walled gardens, enshittification, data trading etc. is IP ? Get outa here ...

[outside1234]

No that’s the implementation, the premise is that the current internet is not working for us (the people) and we need to move to something that does.

[komali2]

Any thoughts on reticulum? https://reticulum.network/

I've been thinking of building out a network of nodes in Taipei. Chatting with people this weekend at g0v summit about it. There's many reasons in Taiwan we could use an internet that's not the internet. If not today, then tomorrow...

[_carbyau_]

I think we need DNS for all, not just the rich-enough-to-register-a-domain.

If everyone could register their publicKey:IPv6 pair then why would we go to FB at all if we could talk directly with each other?

[raincole]

I mean, yeah, if you made a non-interoperable internet2, no one would use that, and therefore no marketer would use that too. In this sense this article is 100% correct.

[johnfn]

The article is a little naive, yea, but it's not even close to the dumbest article I've ever seen on HN :-)

[singingtoday]

That seems harsh.

Yes there's technical challenges, but the current iteration of the clearnet is on life support from a humanistic perspective.

And, projects of similar conceptual scope already been accomplished. There exists more than one application layer network built on top of the current Internet.

If you want to criticize the idea I encourage you to; but please don't just shoot down and insult on hn.

[lanfeust6]

> If you want to criticize the idea I encourage you

They just did. That isn't "just" shooting down.