[LinuxAmbulance]

We abrogated getting traffic to our websites to Google long ago. Mostly because Google was so good at it that the alternatives became significantly less useful.

Now that Google is focusing on becoming 'self contained', so to speak, we should find a better way to drive traffic to websites. Ideally one that's not under the control of a single corporation.

Anyone miss StumbleUpon?

[teamonkey]

It feels strange there’s no decentralised search.

I know this is likely to do with the nature of the problem, but that hasn’t stopped us from getting some wildly-unsuitable decentralised nonsense in the past.

[iamnothere]

There is, YaCy, it just isn’t very good as it suffers from lack of attention/interest.

[nirui]

It is hard to replace the old thing with another old thing. Search engine is already a fine tuned business, new comers will have hard time in it, no matter their tech stack.

It's like trying to raise better horses, while the other side has already built a empire on that and weaponized it.

The way out of here is to find something better than search engine, just like how cars replaced horses. But it's the same reason Google Search is replacing itself with AI too, they're already trying to replace their horses with cars.

[user3939382]

https://searx.space/

[kogasa240p]

Yacy exists but it lacks nodes.

[Bolwin]

I don't see how being decentralized helps search. Makes it quite harder if the fediverse is any indication

[RiverCrochet]

An open way to trade, store, and export lists of websites in a way that works seamlessly on desktop and mobile browsers would be pretty neat.

[antics9]

There’s wander: https://susam.net/wander/

[susam]

Also, here is a list of all known personal websites participating in the Wander network: https://susam.codeberg.page/wcn/

[wyre]

Like bookmarks and links?

[RiverCrochet]

On a higher level than individual URLs and separate from browser favorites. Something like versioned packages of links with decorations.

Something like a ".urlpackage" format that will have

- a list of urls

- optional metadata for each url, such as image, description, last-known-good

- metadata for the entire package, including version, an image, a favicon, and a description for the entire package that a client could use to present it nicely to the end user.

It'd be cool if my phone could open this format, show me the image and description with the list of links, and let me browse them, add them to my bookmarks, or add to the collection and make a new .urlpackage that I could then share back or publish somewhere.

It's probably possible to simply do this with a self-contained HTML file or similar I guess, though.

[hightrix]

Does a move like this give more power / value to websites like reddit? A link aggregator that is organized is much more useful for finding new websites.

[AlienRobot]

But Reddit also doesn't want you visiting new websites.

[ricardonunez]

Not only Reddit the company but mods can be very hostile to linking to websites as well.

[j2kun]

There is also old-fashioned marketing. Go find your audience to be heard.

[somewhereoutth]

(sorry, nit pick, but I don't your usage of 'abrogate' is quite correct here, you can't abrogate to something)

[margalabargala]

> but I don't your usage

If we're nitpicking, you don't what their usage?

[firecall]

> If we're nitpicking, you don't what their usage?

Abrogate their usage.

[magpi3]

He may have meant abdicated