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by Bender 28 days ago
Have I Become a Luddite?

Most likely not. Luddites hate all automation and machinery.

There is probably a name for something in the middle of that spectrum. Even the strictest subgroups of Amish are not Luddites, not even close. The definition of that name would have to include some aspects of pragmatism, logic, common sense and balance. Just because new tech is launched and may be temporarily popular does not mean it should be praised, adored or even accepted. AI will destroy the environment and make electricity expensive.

For example, I would never give up my 1947 tractor. It can do more work than a horse. The used UTV I bought is also very handy. I like old trucks though I absolutely despise what people call modern cars and what they have become despite their crappy implementations of environmental improvements that they have fooled and reprogrammed people with that makes the oil and automotive industry orgasmic. Drive by wire and internet accessible is equal to assassination on demand RIP Anne Heche. Modern vehicles are intellectually disgusting and abhorrent. Modern touch screen controls are just irresponsible.

In my view technology and some machinery have taken giant steps backwards and not wanting to accept such vial abominations is not being a Luddite rather it is just being practical, having some common sense and not being enamored by the hype machine.

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> There is probably a name for something in the middle of that spectrum

Well if there isn't one then we can make one, similar to how Luddite as a word came through this according to wikipedia:

> The Luddites were members of a 19th-century movement of English textile workers who opposed the use of certain types of automated machinery due to concerns relating to worker pay and output quality. They often destroyed the machines in organised raids.[1][2] Members of the group referred to themselves as Luddites, self-described followers of "Ned Ludd", a legendary weaver whose name was used as a pseudonym in threatening letters to mill owners and government officials.[3]

The question arises as to who is the Ned Ludd of the modern era of AI/LLM who represent what you are talking about in the sense of pragmatism, logic,common sense and balance.

> Just because new tech is launched and may be temporarily popular does not mean it should be praised, adored or even accepted

Agreed, not all that glitters is gold.

Edit: speaking of the question arises part, I think that I personally liked Mitchell's view of AI, he is a bit too optimistic at times but I find his overall opinion balanced and more nuanced,

so perhaps mitchellism or hashimotoism/hashimotism could be one of my votes.

Hashimotoism may be too close to Hashimoto's disease [1] though both may have issues [2]

not all that glitters is gold

One of my favorite proverbs along with not all that wander are lost. There must be a word that has more of a well balanced individual connotation.

[1] - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hashimotos-di...

[2] - https://www.reddit.com/r/Mitchellism/

A bit sad to see that both Hashimotoism and mitchellism are sort of taken/have something similar which seems to be a cult about potterhouse church or something, definitely a rabbit hole that I might explore further.

I am thinking ghosttyism or vagrantism but it might get a bit uncertain but yea, the search for a good name continues!

> not all that glitters is gold, One of my favorite proverbs along with not all that wander are lost

My mother is an english teacher and she was just (edit: not just but it was a 1-2 years back iirc not sure) sharing some story within her literature and this proverb was quite relevant to that story. Fun story but maybe I should ask my mother the story again perhaps.

> not all that wander are lost

There is a saying where I live called "सुबह का भूला शाम को घर आ जाए, तो उसे भूला नहीं कहते|" which means that "If a forgotten person comes home in the evening, then he is not called forgotten"

which means in my interpretation that as long as you can realize your mistake and accept upon it and try to improve, then you aren't forgotten or moreso you shouldn't really regret too much about it, the idea is to accept mistakes and improve and apologize etc. if a genuine mistake might be done and the proverb is used to forgive people in some essence.

This got offtopic but hey, welcome to hackernews and thanks for reading and have a nice day @bender :-D